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RCA R-7A wiring diagram illegable.
2/27/2012 11:44:15 PMDave Froehlich
Hello All,
I'm having trouble seeing where the green wire from C-16 goes. I know where it connects to R1 but I need to disconnect the green wire, wherever that is. Once I have that I can try to test this radio.

Thanks,

Dave

2/28/2012 12:48:01 AMEdd









Sir David . . . . .


Looking at the two initial aspects of the unit . . the power supply . . . the AF processing circuitry.
The power supply seems to be fine, its only slight variance, from specified being the AF output stages loading factor.
Now as for the audio section, the Q7 transistor seems to be turned on a bit too hard, but I would expect the whole circuitry to pass an audio signal thru the speaker.
Its biasing is being a derived voltage divider sampling from the string of resistors in the Q9 emitter circuitry to ground. as tha current consumprion of the output stage varies, so does the bias.
You mentioned that the sets Q7-Q8 also got changed . . . why ? (Q-1 ?) and what parts did you use,(Q-2 ?) and no error was made in miswiring the CBE connections ?, in the case of there being a mechanically different basing arrangement was there ?
Also back to day . . . . one did you ever do the bodily induced Hummmm injection to the high /top of the volume control.(Q-3 ?)
Now mind you that this SS circuitry is a current driven technology versus the voltage variant effect of tube based equipment, and the low Z input impedance is not going to be as impressive as the test is demonstrating when using tube type circuitry.
Buuuuuuuut . . . . the long string of direct coupled Q7-8-9 circuity should give a bit of a buzzzz to at least let us know that the audio circuitry stage is functioning.
When confirmed that the set is amplifying audio . . . we can then move on to the frontal RF stages.
BTW another test alternative would be to use a test lead with clips on both ends and connect one clip to the collector line of the output stage and the end of the clip lead to an .05---.1---.47 ufd . . . . (whatcha' got ?) . . . capacitor and the caps then free lead gets alternativly connected to Q7 or Q8's base lead. One should give you " squeak and squawk " city from the sets speaker.
Waiting for responses to questions Q1-3 . . . and your results.


73's de Edd



A boiled egg is . . . hard to beat.







Place responses just after this line :
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Sir David . . . . .


Don't have time to redraw a schematic at this time.
BUT the main B+ from the output filamants of the rectifier is dropped thru R4 16k and then gets filtered ? bypassed/decoupled with that Ci6 to ground and that line passes on to feed two screen supplies of tubes and one plate supply.
Threr is also an 8k droppping resistopr that keeps the cathodes at a highr than normal value intil the volume control sghunts it to ground and starts decreasing that voltage.
It gives a wider dynamic range on the volume control that way.

73's de Edd



If the world were a logical place, men would ride horses sidesaddle.






:Hello All,
: I'm having trouble seeing where the green wire from C-16 goes. I know where it connects to R1 but I need to disconnect the green wire, wherever that is. Once I have that I can try to test this radio.
:
:Thanks,
:
:Dave
:

2/28/2012 9:35:00 AMDave Froehlich
Edd,
This the RCA R-7A from 1932. The radio has 8 tubes in it. I have the schematic you posted some time ago. But it's extremely difficult to see the wiring diagram.
Sorry, I didn't know that there were two RCA R-7As.

Thanks,

Dave
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:Looking at the two initial aspects of the unit . . the power supply . . . the AF processing circuitry.
:The power supply seems to be fine, its only slight variance, from specified being the AF output stages loading factor.
:Now as for the audio section, the Q7 transistor seems to be turned on a bit too hard, but I would expect the whole circuitry to pass an audio signal thru the speaker.
:Its biasing is being a derived voltage divider sampling from the string of resistors in the Q9 emitter circuitry to ground. as tha current consumprion of the output stage varies, so does the bias.
:You mentioned that the sets Q7-Q8 also got changed . . . why ? (Q-1 ?) and what parts did you use,(Q-2 ?) and no error was made in miswiring the CBE connections ?, in the case of there being a mechanically different basing arrangement was there ?
:Also back to day . . . . one did you ever do the bodily induced Hummmm injection to the high /top of the volume control.(Q-3 ?)
:Now mind you that this SS circuitry is a current driven technology versus the voltage variant effect of tube based equipment, and the low Z input impedance is not going to be as impressive as the test is demonstrating when using tube type circuitry.
:Buuuuuuuut . . . . the long string of direct coupled Q7-8-9 circuity should give a bit of a buzzzz to at least let us know that the audio circuitry stage is functioning.
:When confirmed that the set is amplifying audio . . . we can then move on to the frontal RF stages.
:BTW another test alternative would be to use a test lead with clips on both ends and connect one clip to the collector line of the output stage and the end of the clip lead to an .05---.1---.47 ufd . . . . (whatcha' got ?) . . . capacitor and the caps then free lead gets alternativly connected to Q7 or Q8's base lead. One should give you " squeak and squawk " city from the sets speaker.
:Waiting for responses to questions Q1-3 . . . and your results.
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:73's de Edd

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:A boiled egg is . . . hard to beat.
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:Place responses just after this line :
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:Sir David . . . . .
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: Don't have time to redraw a schematic at this time.
:BUT the main B+ from the output filamants of the rectifier is dropped thru R4 16k and then gets filtered ? bypassed/decoupled with that Ci6 to ground and that line passes on to feed two screen supplies of tubes and one plate supply.
:Threr is also an 8k droppping resistopr that keeps the cathodes at a highr than normal value intil the volume control sghunts it to ground and starts decreasing that voltage.
:It gives a wider dynamic range on the volume control that way.
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:73's de Edd

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: If the world were a logical place, men would ride horses sidesaddle.
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::Hello All,
:: I'm having trouble seeing where the green wire from C-16 goes. I know where it connects to R1 but I need to disconnect the green wire, wherever that is. Once I have that I can try to test this radio.
::
::Thanks,
::
::Dave
::
:
:

2/28/2012 12:49:38 AMEdd









Sir David . . . . .


Looking at the two initial aspects of the unit . . the power supply . . . the AF processing circuitry.
The power supply seems to be fine, its only slight variance, from specified being the AF output stages loading factor.
Now as for the audio section, the Q7 transistor seems to be turned on a bit too hard, but I would expect the whole circuitry to pass an audio signal thru the speaker.
Its biasing is being a derived voltage divider sampling from the string of resistors in the Q9 emitter circuitry to ground. as tha current consumprion of the output stage varies, so does the bias.
You mentioned that the sets Q7-Q8 also got changed . . . why ? (Q-1 ?) and what parts did you use,(Q-2 ?) and no error was made in miswiring the CBE connections ?, in the case of there being a mechanically different basing arrangement was there ?
Also back to day . . . . one did you ever do the bodily induced Hummmm injection to the high /top of the volume control.(Q-3 ?)
Now mind you that this SS circuitry is a current driven technology versus the voltage variant effect of tube based equipment, and the low Z input impedance is not going to be as impressive as the test is demonstrating when using tube type circuitry.
Buuuuuuuut . . . . the long string of direct coupled Q7-8-9 circuity should give a bit of a buzzzz to at least let us know that the audio circuitry stage is functioning.
When confirmed that the set is amplifying audio . . . we can then move on to the frontal RF stages.
BTW another test alternative would be to use a test lead with clips on both ends and connect one clip to the collector line of the output stage and the end of the clip lead to an .05---.1---.47 ufd . . . . (whatcha' got ?) . . . capacitor and the caps then free lead gets alternativly connected to Q7 or Q8's base lead. One should give you " squeak and squawk " city from the sets speaker.
Waiting for responses to questions Q1-3 . . . and your results.


73's de Edd



A boiled egg is . . . hard to beat.







Place responses just after this line :
************** |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ****************










Sir David . . . . .


Don't have time to redraw a schematic at this time.
BUT the main B+ from the output filamants of the rectifier is dropped thru R4 16k and then gets filtered ? bypassed/decoupled with that Ci6 to ground and that line passes on to feed two screen supplies of tubes and one plate supply.
Threr is also an 8k droppping resistopr that keeps the cathodes at a highr than normal value intil the volume control sghunts it to ground and starts decreasing that voltage.
It gives a wider dynamic range on the volume control that way.

73's de Edd



If the world were a logical place, men would ride horses sidesaddle.






:Hello All,
: I'm having trouble seeing where the green wire from C-16 goes. I know where it connects to R1 but I need to disconnect the green wire, wherever that is. Once I have that I can try to test this radio.
:
:Thanks,
:
:Dave
:



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