connections and parts . . . should enable you to tell us what goes to what in your sets particular situation. 73's de Edd They caught me on an 80 foot stepladder with a coat hanger wire. |
:Rods Columbia is name of radio vintage 1947 - coin opt probably for a motel & chances of ever finding info pretty slim but,am looking at the coin mech,one side has a flat motor to run timing gear. Leads (2) of motor connect to a termial (120 volt) that connect to plug-in cord. Between motor & termial a relay is wired in parallel. I applied voltage, timer motor operates so does relay, but I can not figure out its purpose(relay), if it was in series maybe some kind of overload, but parallel have no idea.
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Ed; Not being a computer wize, this could be good canidate for a picture. I've seen some on N.A., any instructions on how to get a picture posted. Drawing is close but the motor turns a cam shaft slowly on other side when dime is inserted motor and radio start,when cam reaches low point (maybe 5 minutes) metal rod moves and dime falls into cash box, motor shuts off along with radio, ready for next dime. Looks all orginal,no mickey mousing, not very hi tech from 40's.
So ya wanna shows us a pick-sure of the mechanics . . . .hunnnnhhh . . . . . . . well then I am going to demo its procedure below: (Remember . . . those are supposed to be carets) That is then followed with a simple HTML tailer of: 73's de Edd
Sir Bob . . . . .
Drawing is close but the motor turns a cam shaft slowly on other side when dime is inserted motor and radio start,when cam reaches low point (maybe 5 minutes) metal rod moves and dime falls into cash box, motor shuts off along with radio, ready for next dime.
I was thinking along . . . . . "Juice Botch" . . . or how you clazee Amellicains say . . . . Juke Box . . . technology of ye olde tymes.
So your unit may so simplified as to not even have an additional preprocessing coin selector /ejector inside . . . . . watch out for those slugs ! . .
I am still seeing the s . . . l . . . o . . . w engagement of the timer motor gear train, as being the NEED of the relay for its intial requirement of holding the timer motor running until the slow action gear train is able to negotiate any switching action.
That relay would be using one set of contacts (my relays depicted N and P contacts ) to convert its action into a "latching or holding " function, thereby, making the slow initial response time of the timer gear train of no consequence.
Now, I did find a picture of what might be that unit, in all of its regal circa 1947 glory.
Now what you do is duplicate what I have placed below with your validly " hot linked" http URL addee:
Where I am now placing either "(" or ")" you need to actually SUBSTITUTE IN either version of the caret symbol " < " in its corresponding left or right facing version.
First of all, I put in a couple of (br) (br) actions to line space the photo down a bit from the end of the text area.
Then I place in the HTML "header" of:
(img src=
Then the hot liked url of:
http://live.vcaauction.com/images/271/12912/12912_0632_1_md.jpg
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Now, in reformatting it as being on one line, that composite structuring is then being :
(img src=http://live.vcaauction.com/images/271/12912/12912_0632_1_md.jpg)
With you then substituting the left and right brackets with corresponding left and right "carets", the picture will then be HTML "active" and will be displayed within your next post as a photo.
Now here I go with a photo of a Rods Columbia unit, of which I believe that some of them were encased within other than a visibly displayed wooden housing.
Additionally, if you now will go to the " view " browser option at the vewy-vwewy top left corner of this page and left click on it, there will be a dialog box opening up and you then go down to its "Source" line option and left click on it and the entirety of this page will be shown in HTML coding . . . . scroll down and look down to where I have put in a " personal " textual marker and you can then see the proper HTML coding for that photo I just posted, being down on the line just below it.
I had amnesia once . . . . or was it twice ?
Ed; Not being a computer wize, this could be good canidate for a picture. I've seen some on N.A., any instructions on how to get a picture posted. Drawing is close but the motor turns a cam shaft slowly on other side when dime is inserted motor and radio start,when cam reaches low point (maybe 5 minutes) metal rod moves and dime falls into cash box, motor shuts off along with radio, ready for next dime. Looks all orginal,no mickey mousing, not very hi tech from 40's.
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: : : : : : : : : : :Sir Bob . . . . . : : :Drawing is close but the motor turns a cam shaft slowly on other side when dime is inserted motor and radio start,when cam reaches low point (maybe 5 minutes) metal rod moves and dime falls into cash box, motor shuts off along with radio, ready for next dime. : : :I was thinking along . . . . . "Juice Botch" . . . or how you clazee Amellicains say . . . . Juke Box . . . technology of ye olde tymes. : : :So your unit may so simplified as to not even have an additional preprocessing coin selector /ejector inside . . . . . watch out for those slugs ! . . : : :I am still seeing the s . . . l . . . o . . . w engagement of the timer motor gear train, as being the NEED of the relay for its intial requirement of holding the timer motor running until the slow action gear train is able to negotiate any switching action. : : :That relay would be using one set of contacts (my relays depicted N and P contacts ) to convert its action into a "latching or holding " function, thereby, making the slow initial response time of the timer gear train of no consequence. : : : :So ya wanna shows us a pick-sure of the mechanics . . . .hunnnnhhh . . . . . . . well then I am going to demo its procedure below: : : :Now, I did find a picture of what might be that unit, in all of its regal circa 1947 glory. : : :Now what you do is duplicate what I have placed below with your validly " hot linked" http URL addee: : : :Where I am now placing either "(" or ")" you need to actually SUBSTITUTE IN either version of the caret symbol " < " in its corresponding left or right facing version. : : :First of all, I put in a couple of (br) (br) actions to line space the photo down a bit from the end of the text area. : :(Remember . . . those are supposed to be carets) : : :Then I place in the HTML "header" of: : : : (img src= : : : :Then the hot liked url of: : : :http://live.vcaauction.com/images/271/12912/12912_0632_1_md.jpg : : : :That is then followed with a simple HTML tailer of: : : : ) : : : :Now, in reformatting it as being on one line, that composite structuring is then being : : : :(img src=http://live.vcaauction.com/images/271/12912/12912_0632_1_md.jpg) : : :With you then substituting the left and right brackets with corresponding left and right "carets", the picture will then be HTML "active" and will be displayed within your next post as a photo. : : :Now here I go with a photo of a Rods Columbia unit, of which I believe that some of them were encased within other than a visibly displayed wooden housing. : : : : : : : : :Additionally, if you now will go to the " view " browser option at the vewy-vwewy top left corner of this page and left click on it, there will be a dialog box opening up and you then go down to its "Source" line option and left click on it and the entirety of this page will be shown in HTML coding . . . . scroll down and look down to where I have put in a " personal " textual marker and you can then see the proper HTML coding for that photo I just posted, being down on the line just below it. : : : :73's de Edd : : : : :I had amnesia once . . . . or was it twice ? : : : : : |
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:Ed; Not being a computer wize, this could be good canidate for a picture. I've seen some on N.A., any instructions on how to get a picture posted. Drawing is close but the motor turns a cam shaft slowly on other side when dime is inserted motor and radio start,when cam reaches low point (maybe 5 minutes) metal rod moves and dime falls into cash box, motor shuts off along with radio, ready for next dime. Looks all orginal,no mickey mousing, not very hi tech from 40's.
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I have this radio, I restored it a few years ago, I can remove the chassis and post pictures of the mechanics if you would like.
When i drop a dime the radio comes on after about 30 sec. Plays for 15 min. Dime drops to box at about 12 min.
Let me know?
Mitch
13c gets you 1kw/hr of electricity these days. I can't imagine paying 10c for 15 minutes of radio back then!
WOW!
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::Drawing is close but the motor turns a cam shaft slowly on other side when dime is inserted motor and radio start,when cam reaches low point (maybe 5 minutes) metal rod moves and dime falls into cash box, motor shuts off along with radio, ready for next dime.
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::I was thinking along . . . . . "Juice Botch" . . . or how you clazee Amellicains say . . . . Juke Box . . . technology of ye olde tymes.
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::So your unit may so simplified as to not even have an additional preprocessing coin selector /ejector inside . . . . . watch out for those slugs ! . .
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::I am still seeing the s . . . l . . . o . . . w engagement of the timer motor gear train, as being the NEED of the relay for its intial requirement of holding the timer motor running until the slow action gear train is able to negotiate any switching action.
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::That relay would be using one set of contacts (my relays depicted N and P contacts ) to convert its action into a "latching or holding " function, thereby, making the slow initial response time of the timer gear train of no consequence.
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::So ya wanna shows us a pick-sure of the mechanics . . . .hunnnnhhh . . . . . . . well then I am going to demo its procedure below:
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::Now, I did find a picture of what might be that unit, in all of its regal circa 1947 glory.
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::Now what you do is duplicate what I have placed below with your validly " hot linked" http URL addee:
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::Where I am now placing either "(" or ")" you need to actually SUBSTITUTE IN either version of the caret symbol " < " in its corresponding left or right facing version.
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::First of all, I put in a couple of (br) (br) actions to line space the photo down a bit from the end of the text area.
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::Now, in reformatting it as being on one line, that composite structuring is then being :
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::With you then substituting the left and right brackets with corresponding left and right "carets", the picture will then be HTML "active" and will be displayed within your next post as a photo.
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::Now here I go with a photo of a Rods Columbia unit, of which I believe that some of them were encased within other than a visibly displayed wooden housing.
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::Ed; Not being a computer wize, this could be good canidate for a picture. I've seen some on N.A., any instructions on how to get a picture posted. Drawing is close but the motor turns a cam shaft slowly on other side when dime is inserted motor and radio start,when cam reaches low point (maybe 5 minutes) metal rod moves and dime falls into cash box, motor shuts off along with radio, ready for next dime. Looks all orginal,no mickey mousing, not very hi tech from 40's.
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:When i drop a dime the radio comes on after about 30 sec. Plays for 15 min. Dime drops to box at about 12 min.
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I should be able to post pictures this evening.
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Bob, Edd,
I have the photos of the timer for the radio posted here.
Edd, you should be able to make a good schematic from my one line. Follow potential to relay and switch. When dime inserted. The motor will continue to rotate until the wire hits the relay arm, then dime falls and motor keeps going for three mins. until spring arm bends and releases the on/off switch. The relay arm controls the on/off of the motor cam motion.
Bob, hope this helps you to understand you coin radio.
Mitch
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:Edd, you should be able to make a good schematic from my one line. Follow potential to relay and switch. When dime inserted. The motor will continue to rotate until the wire hits the relay arm, then dime falls and motor keeps going for three mins. until spring arm bends and releases the on/off switch. The relay arm controls the on/off of the motor cam motion.
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I restored this radio two years ago and looked up my notes on what i found about it.
I changed the two filter capacitors and two of the paper capacitors. The antenna coil had a broken connection that was also repaired. The radio plays very well.
There is no service information or schematic to be found on it as you will see from the following information aquired from old magazine articles that i researched.
I used the Sears schematic as a reference, model 13,14 posted here at NA.
These radios were manufactured in 1947 by ROD's Columbia in Chicago as a sub company of Columbia Products Co. in Chicago.
Coined (a little pun) Rod's Columbia as the brand name.
They were only focused on the hotel industry to install these radios in rooms for guests, the hotel got three cents while Columbia got seven cents for each dime played.
Columbia did not have the distribution or finances to be sucessful with the radio venture and closed the doors on the radio venture in 1948, hench no real service data exists.
The coin operated radios made for the hospitals were a great venture with the pillow speakers and reading lights.
You do have a treasure in this radio, but you will probably be the only one that knows it except me.
Mitch
Hi Edd; The picture is alomst it, mine has 2 lights on front top. Mitch might post a picture of the relay, thanks for your how to post a photo, I'm not that "HI TECH" would probably toss the computer in the front lawn in frustration.If you have any info on this unit please post. thanks