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National NC-303 - no audio gain on AM
9/7/2011 8:02:01 PMBrian
I have a National NC-303 from which I can pick up ssb but cannot pick up anything on AM mode. No movement on s-meter. Essentially have RF gain but no audio gain. Can someone point me to avc cirucit in this radio in terms of troublshooting components? I have tracked avc line from accesory socket back to V1 and it checks OK.
9/7/2011 11:29:42 PMEdd









Sir Brian . . . . .



Misadjustment and /or / switch settings ?



With your sets SSB mode working . . . it is concurrently using the SAME stages and processing that that would be involved for standard AM mode of reception. (***Ref )


BUT, you does realizes-es that you has done founds yourself a receiver, that is geared exclusively for solely tuning the Am-a choor frequencies . . . don't you ?


Whereupon, if you scan the Ham bands you might still find yourself one or two AM stations . . . .more likely on weekends or before mornings "go to work" time on a net fwequency . . . . (Elmer Fudd made me do it !)


HOWEVER if you chance to tune into the 11 meter band you should still find quite a bit of operations by the Cee Bee'rs.


(*** Ref )recontinuing on the related above


Put the Mode switch at AM.


Notch and Depth filter(s) OFF. . . . . (or you are potentially apt to suck up and swallow the whole IF signal.)


Then locate the sets IF passband switching . . . . .and examine its mark ups.


Do note the different IF passband settings with :


S . . . . . . .(400 cps bandwidth) . . . . used for crowded CW code reception


SB1 . . . . .(2 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for single side band reception


SB2 . . . . (2 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for single side band reception


M . . . . . . (3.5 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for AM reception


B . . . . . . . (8 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for wider band AM reception and also TTY /FAX / WEA and transponder

                  reception


To get decent sounding AM, you will need to be in the last "M" or "B" bandwidth settings .



Initially . . . . Thassit . . . .




73's de Edd





:I have a National NC-303 from which I can pick up ssb but cannot pick up anything on AM mode. No movement on s-meter. Essentially have RF gain but no audio gain. Can someone point me to avc cirucit in this radio in terms of troublshooting components? I have tracked avc line from accesory socket back to V1 and it checks OK.
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9/8/2011 7:52:44 AMBrian
I will try those settings. One thing I have noticed is that the cathodes on tubes 6BJ6 (V5 and V6) are running high, 11 and 6 volts respectively. I have changed most of the capacitors around those tubes, am I looking at a short somewhere that is drawing them up?

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:Sir Brian . . . . .
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:Misadjustment and /or / switch settings ?
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:With your sets SSB mode working . . . it is concurrently using the SAME stages and processing that that would be involved for standard AM mode of reception. (***Ref )
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:BUT, you does realizes-es that you has done founds yourself a receiver, that is geared exclusively for solely tuning the Am-a choor frequencies . . . don't you ?
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:Whereupon, if you scan the Ham bands you might still find yourself one or two AM stations . . . .more likely on weekends or before mornings "go to work" time on a net fwequency . . . . (Elmer Fudd made me do it !)
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:HOWEVER if you chance to tune into the 11 meter band you should still find quite a bit of operations by the Cee Bee'rs.
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:(*** Ref )recontinuing on the related above
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:Put the Mode switch at AM.
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:Notch and Depth filter(s) OFF. . . . . (or you are potentially apt to suck up and swallow the whole IF signal.)
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:Then locate the sets IF passband switching . . . . .and examine its mark ups.
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:Do note the different IF passband settings with :
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:S . . . . . . .(400 cps bandwidth) . . . . used for crowded CW code reception
:
:
:SB1 . . . . .(2 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for single side band reception
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:SB2 . . . . (2 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for single side band reception
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:M . . . . . . (3.5 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for AM reception
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:B . . . . . . . (8 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for wider band AM reception and also TTY /FAX / WEA and transponder
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:To get decent sounding AM, you will need to be in the last "M" or "B" bandwidth settings .
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:Initially . . . . Thassit . . . .
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:73's de Edd

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::I have a National NC-303 from which I can pick up ssb but cannot pick up anything on AM mode. No movement on s-meter. Essentially have RF gain but no audio gain. Can someone point me to avc cirucit in this radio in terms of troublshooting components? I have tracked avc line from accesory socket back to V1 and it checks OK.
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9/26/2011 9:27:12 PMBrian
I've found several small resistors that appear to be wire wound that are open around the wafer switches. They are small indeed, does the same colour coding apply to these? I like to double check the circuit with the colours. These are tiny resistors.


:I will try those settings. One thing I have noticed is that the cathodes on tubes 6BJ6 (V5 and V6) are running high, 11 and 6 volts respectively. I have changed most of the capacitors around those tubes, am I looking at a short somewhere that is drawing them up?
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::Sir Brian . . . . .
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::Misadjustment and /or / switch settings ?
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::
::
::
::With your sets SSB mode working . . . it is concurrently using the SAME stages and processing that that would be involved for standard AM mode of reception. (***Ref )
::
::
::BUT, you does realizes-es that you has done founds yourself a receiver, that is geared exclusively for solely tuning the Am-a choor frequencies . . . don't you ?
::
::
::Whereupon, if you scan the Ham bands you might still find yourself one or two AM stations . . . .more likely on weekends or before mornings "go to work" time on a net fwequency . . . . (Elmer Fudd made me do it !)
::
::
::HOWEVER if you chance to tune into the 11 meter band you should still find quite a bit of operations by the Cee Bee'rs.
::
::
::(*** Ref )recontinuing on the related above
::
::
::Put the Mode switch at AM.
::
::
::Notch and Depth filter(s) OFF. . . . . (or you are potentially apt to suck up and swallow the whole IF signal.)
::
::
::Then locate the sets IF passband switching . . . . .and examine its mark ups.
::
::
::Do note the different IF passband settings with :
::
::
::S . . . . . . .(400 cps bandwidth) . . . . used for crowded CW code reception
::
::
::SB1 . . . . .(2 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for single side band reception
::
::
::SB2 . . . . (2 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for single side band reception
::
::
::M . . . . . . (3.5 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for AM reception
::
::
::B . . . . . . . (8 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for wider band AM reception and also TTY /FAX / WEA and transponder
::
::                   reception
::
::
::To get decent sounding AM, you will need to be in the last "M" or "B" bandwidth settings .
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::
::
::
::Initially . . . . Thassit . . . .
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::73's de Edd

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:::I have a National NC-303 from which I can pick up ssb but cannot pick up anything on AM mode. No movement on s-meter. Essentially have RF gain but no audio gain. Can someone point me to avc cirucit in this radio in terms of troublshooting components? I have tracked avc line from accesory socket back to V1 and it checks OK.
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9/26/2011 10:25:36 PMBrian
I'm wrong, these are ceramic capacitors, never encountered them before. Please disregard.

:I've found several small resistors that appear to be wire wound that are open around the wafer switches. They are small indeed, does the same colour coding apply to these? I like to double check the circuit with the colours. These are tiny resistors.
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::I will try those settings. One thing I have noticed is that the cathodes on tubes 6BJ6 (V5 and V6) are running high, 11 and 6 volts respectively. I have changed most of the capacitors around those tubes, am I looking at a short somewhere that is drawing them up?
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:::Sir Brian . . . . .
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:::
:::Misadjustment and /or / switch settings ?
:::
:::
:::
:::
:::
:::With your sets SSB mode working . . . it is concurrently using the SAME stages and processing that that would be involved for standard AM mode of reception. (***Ref )
:::
:::
:::BUT, you does realizes-es that you has done founds yourself a receiver, that is geared exclusively for solely tuning the Am-a choor frequencies . . . don't you ?
:::
:::
:::Whereupon, if you scan the Ham bands you might still find yourself one or two AM stations . . . .more likely on weekends or before mornings "go to work" time on a net fwequency . . . . (Elmer Fudd made me do it !)
:::
:::
:::HOWEVER if you chance to tune into the 11 meter band you should still find quite a bit of operations by the Cee Bee'rs.
:::
:::
:::(*** Ref )recontinuing on the related above
:::
:::
:::Put the Mode switch at AM.
:::
:::
:::Notch and Depth filter(s) OFF. . . . . (or you are potentially apt to suck up and swallow the whole IF signal.)
:::
:::
:::Then locate the sets IF passband switching . . . . .and examine its mark ups.
:::
:::
:::Do note the different IF passband settings with :
:::
:::
:::S . . . . . . .(400 cps bandwidth) . . . . used for crowded CW code reception
:::
:::
:::SB1 . . . . .(2 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for single side band reception
:::
:::
:::SB2 . . . . (2 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for single side band reception
:::
:::
:::M . . . . . . (3.5 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for AM reception
:::
:::
:::B . . . . . . . (8 kc bandwidth) . . . . used for wider band AM reception and also TTY /FAX / WEA and transponder
:::
:::                   reception
:::
:::
:::To get decent sounding AM, you will need to be in the last "M" or "B" bandwidth settings .
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:::
:::
:::Initially . . . . Thassit . . . .
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