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Zenith 10-S-160 WOW! Amazingly Powerful!
6/30/2010 7:55:07 PMDave Froehlich
Hello All,
How powerful is this set? It's a blaster! I just replaced 20 capacitors in it. It sounds a bit bright on the high frequencies. But the speaker isn't in the cabinet. I am assuming that this is normal. The bass is quite normal. It sounds really good!
Whoever worked on this before, claiming that it was restored, used a 100 microfarad capacitor as the first one after the 80 (was supposed to be an 8 microfarad capacitor, then they didn't replace the two 8 microfarad capacitors in the other can, actually just one paper capacitor was replaced, and two electrolytic capacitors were replaced with the wrong values. There's a lot of 8 microfarad capacitors in there. More than I would have expected. I like the two filter chokes. This is just amazing! The person who brought this to me thought that it was working. I can't imagine how it was working with bad and wrong capacitors. But it really works well now.

Dave

6/30/2010 8:09:15 PMDave Froehlich
Hello Again All,
This model has an 80 in it instead of the 5Y3. Do you think this came from the factory this way or do you think someone replaced the socket? The socket doesn't have the tube number on but the rest of the sockets do have tube numbers on them. I see screw screws instead of rivets holding in the socket. So I guess someone couldn't afford the newer 5Y3s and wanted to continue using 80s. Whatever, its the same tube but with a different base.

Thanks,

Dave
:Hello All,
: How powerful is this set? It's a blaster! I just replaced 20 capacitors in it. It sounds a bit bright on the high frequencies. But the speaker isn't in the cabinet. I am assuming that this is normal. The bass is quite normal. It sounds really good!
: Whoever worked on this before, claiming that it was restored, used a 100 microfarad capacitor as the first one after the 80 (was supposed to be an 8 microfarad capacitor, then they didn't replace the two 8 microfarad capacitors in the other can, actually just one paper capacitor was replaced, and two electrolytic capacitors were replaced with the wrong values. There's a lot of 8 microfarad capacitors in there. More than I would have expected. I like the two filter chokes. This is just amazing! The person who brought this to me thought that it was working. I can't imagine how it was working with bad and wrong capacitors. But it really works well now.
:
:Dave
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6/30/2010 8:38:51 PMBill G.
Hi Dave,
Reads like you have a real keeper there. Teh work of the previous 'restorer' sounds like the work of a kid. When they are restored to factory original they are great. It gives one a sense of accomplishment when it is restored. It will operate like that for many years to come, too.

The 80 was most certainly a modification. Someone didn't have a 5Y3G and substituted the 80 rahter than ordering the newer tube. I did something similar when I was a kid.

Best Regards,

Bill Grimm

6/30/2010 11:38:10 PMDave Froehlich
Bill,
It's odd. It's got noisy tuning on SW, as if plates are touching. However, using exactly the same tuning capacitor on the Broadcast band and it tunes with no noise. It doesn't make any sense. While tuning band C it will go tick tick tick and various speeds depending on where it's tuned. It's kind of like motor-boating but much slower. It happens a little bit on the B band but it's mostly happening on the C band. When there's a strong station it will get tuned in and I'll hear it, except at the high end of the band. Maybe the converter tube is acting up at the high frequencies?

Thanks,

Dave

:Hi Dave,
: Reads like you have a real keeper there. Teh work of the previous 'restorer' sounds like the work of a kid. When they are restored to factory original they are great. It gives one a sense of accomplishment when it is restored. It will operate like that for many years to come, too.
:
: The 80 was most certainly a modification. Someone didn't have a 5Y3G and substituted the 80 rahter than ordering the newer tube. I did something similar when I was a kid.
:
:Best Regards,
:
:Bill Grimm
:



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