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Replace dial belt in Zenith 6-S-223 (Chassis # 5638)
3/23/2010 4:05:16 PMBill Quinn
I get to replace a dial belt in a Zenith 6-S-223. How do I pull out the shaft so that I can put the new belt over it, so that I can hook the belt to the pulley on the shaft and the two other pulleies in the chassis. I try cutting a belt and gule it back together over the pulley on the shaft, it did not work. Bill Quinn
3/23/2010 9:38:55 PMHarry
There is no magic solution. You take it apart and replace the belt.

:I get to replace a dial belt in a Zenith 6-S-223. How do I pull out the shaft so that I can put the new belt over it, so that I can hook the belt to the pulley on the shaft and the two other pulleies in the chassis. I try cutting a belt and gule it back together over the pulley on the shaft, it did not work. Bill Quinn
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3/24/2010 3:56:18 AMWalter
When you say 'It did not work', do you mean that the belt did not hold together or wouldn't turn the mechanism? I had good luck with the cut-and-glue tuning belt on my Zenith. Have it only slightly 'snug' like a tape player belt.
I also had to dismantle my shutter dial and pointers in order to free and lube the shaft-within-a-shaft and gears that had stiffened up from sitting. Just remember how it comes apart and put it together the same way. Easy does it and gently. Draw yourself pictures of how it comes apart.
3/24/2010 6:59:44 AMJon.
: When you say 'It did not work', do you mean that the belt did not hold together or wouldn't turn the mechanism? I had good luck with the cut-and-glue tuning belt on my Zenith. Have it only slightly 'snug' like a tape player belt.
: I also had to dismantle my shutter dial and pointers in order to free and lube the shaft-within-a-shaft and gears that had stiffened up from sitting. Just remember how it comes apart and put it together the same way. Easy does it and gently. Draw yourself pictures of how it comes apart.
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Jon.
3/24/2010 8:12:52 AMBill Quinn
To Walter & Jon: When I said that "it did not work", what I was saying was that the glue would not hold and it got on my hands and the belt was not holding very good, it was a mess. Jon, if it no big problem I would take some of the O rings you have, my mailing address is: Bill Quinn/POBox 21, 649 State Rt.11/Moira,New York 12957-0021. I found a web site that sell belts for all kind of radios, it is Adams Manufacturing Company. Other wise the the radio works find, no electric problem and cabined is in great conduction. A #*! $4.00 part goes bad and I can't use the radio, just like a car! Thank you for the information. Bill :: When you say 'It did not work', do you mean that the belt did not hold together or wouldn't turn the mechanism? I had good luck with the cut-and-glue tuning belt on my Zenith. Have it only slightly 'snug' like a tape player belt.
:: I also had to dismantle my shutter dial and pointers in order to free and lube the shaft-within-a-shaft and gears that had stiffened up from sitting. Just remember how it comes apart and put it together the same way. Easy does it and gently. Draw yourself pictures of how it comes apart.
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:I have always had good luck with these. I use large O rings. Cut at an angle for increased glue area, put in place with a little tension and super glue. Hold for a minute or two and thats it. I have a box full of old drive belts that we use at work on driven roller conveyors. They break or get replaced and I take them home just for this. E mail me your address and I'll mail you some.
:Jon.
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3/24/2010 9:00:41 AMprocesshead
I have found that when I use cut and glue to put on a Zenith belt, it helps to have a fresh tube of superglue. The fresh stuff seems to set up more reliably. I also clean the cut ends with a little alcohol to make sure there is no oil to interfere with adhesion of the glue.


: To Walter & Jon: When I said that "it did not work", what I was saying was that the glue would not hold and it got on my hands and the belt was not holding very good, it was a mess. Jon, if it no big problem I would take some of the O rings you have, my mailing address is: Bill Quinn/POBox 21, 649 State Rt.11/Moira,New York 12957-0021. I found a web site that sell belts for all kind of radios, it is Adams Manufacturing Company. Other wise the the radio works find, no electric problem and cabined is in great conduction. A #*! $4.00 part goes bad and I can't use the radio, just like a car! Thank you for the information. Bill :: When you say 'It did not work', do you mean that the belt did not hold together or wouldn't turn the mechanism? I had good luck with the cut-and-glue tuning belt on my Zenith. Have it only slightly 'snug' like a tape player belt.
::: I also had to dismantle my shutter dial and pointers in order to free and lube the shaft-within-a-shaft and gears that had stiffened up from sitting. Just remember how it comes apart and put it together the same way. Easy does it and gently. Draw yourself pictures of how it comes apart.
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::I have always had good luck with these. I use large O rings. Cut at an angle for increased glue area, put in place with a little tension and super glue. Hold for a minute or two and thats it. I have a box full of old drive belts that we use at work on driven roller conveyors. They break or get replaced and I take them home just for this. E mail me your address and I'll mail you some.
::Jon.
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3/24/2010 12:02:36 PMJon
: To Walter & Jon: When I said that "it did not work", what I was saying was that the glue would not hold and it got on my hands and the belt was not holding very good, it was a mess. Jon, if it no big problem I would take some of the O rings you have, my mailing address is: Bill Quinn/POBox 21, 649 State Rt.11/Moira,New York 12957-0021. I found a web site that sell belts for all kind of radios, it is Adams Manufacturing Company. Other wise the the radio works find, no electric problem and cabined is in great conduction. A #*! $4.00 part goes bad and I can't use the radio, just like a car! Thank you for the information. Bill :: When you say 'It did not work', do you mean that the belt did not hold together or wouldn't turn the mechanism? I had good luck with the cut-and-glue tuning belt on my Zenith. Have it only slightly 'snug' like a tape player belt.
::: I also had to dismantle my shutter dial and pointers in order to free and lube the shaft-within-a-shaft and gears that had stiffened up from sitting. Just remember how it comes apart and put it together the same way. Easy does it and gently. Draw yourself pictures of how it comes apart.
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::I have always had good luck with these. I use large O rings. Cut at an angle for increased glue area, put in place with a little tension and super glue. Hold for a minute or two and thats it. I have a box full of old drive belts that we use at work on driven roller conveyors. They break or get replaced and I take them home just for this. E mail me your address and I'll mail you some.
::Jon.
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3/24/2010 2:51:20 PMJon.
: To Walter & Jon: When I said that "it did not work", what I was saying was that the glue would not hold and it got on my hands and the belt was not holding very good, it was a mess. Jon, if it no big problem I would take some of the O rings you have, my mailing address is: Bill Quinn/POBox 21, 649 State Rt.11/Moira,New York 12957-0021. I found a web site that sell belts for all kind of radios, it is Adams Manufacturing Company. Other wise the the radio works find, no electric problem and cabined is in great conduction. A #*! $4.00 part goes bad and I can't use the radio, just like a car! Thank you for the information. Bill :: When you say 'It did not work', do you mean that the belt did not hold together or wouldn't turn the mechanism? I had good luck with the cut-and-glue tuning belt on my Zenith. Have it only slightly 'snug' like a tape player belt.
::: I also had to dismantle my shutter dial and pointers in order to free and lube the shaft-within-a-shaft and gears that had stiffened up from sitting. Just remember how it comes apart and put it together the same way. Easy does it and gently. Draw yourself pictures of how it comes apart.

Bill,
I will get some in the mail to you.
Good luck.
Jon.

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::I have always had good luck with these. I use large O rings. Cut at an angle for increased glue area, put in place with a little tension and super glue. Hold for a minute or two and thats it. I have a box full of old drive belts that we use at work on driven roller conveyors. They break or get replaced and I take them home just for this. E mail me your address and I'll mail you some.
::Jon.
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3/24/2010 11:56:08 PMMarv Nuce
All,
Haven't investigated this particular radio, but just a suggestion that may work for some. I collect hardware old and new, and the carriage belt (non stretchable) on most printers (3/16"-1/4" Wide) have teeth, which aids traction over the pulleys. They can be cut to length and super glued (lap not butt joint) for many uses. With a sharp knife/razor blade, slice the teeth off the inside about 1/4", then glue with a lap joint to backside of other end. They're flexible, but tough.

marv

: To Walter & Jon: When I said that "it did not work", what I was saying was that the glue would not hold and it got on my hands and the belt was not holding very good, it was a mess. Jon, if it no big problem I would take some of the O rings you have, my mailing address is: Bill Quinn/POBox 21, 649 State Rt.11/Moira,New York 12957-0021. I found a web site that sell belts for all kind of radios, it is Adams Manufacturing Company. Other wise the the radio works find, no electric problem and cabined is in great conduction. A #*! $4.00 part goes bad and I can't use the radio, just like a car! Thank you for the information. Bill :: When you say 'It did not work', do you mean that the belt did not hold together or wouldn't turn the mechanism? I had good luck with the cut-and-glue tuning belt on my Zenith. Have it only slightly 'snug' like a tape player belt.
::: I also had to dismantle my shutter dial and pointers in order to free and lube the shaft-within-a-shaft and gears that had stiffened up from sitting. Just remember how it comes apart and put it together the same way. Easy does it and gently. Draw yourself pictures of how it comes apart.
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::I have always had good luck with these. I use large O rings. Cut at an angle for increased glue area, put in place with a little tension and super glue. Hold for a minute or two and thats it. I have a box full of old drive belts that we use at work on driven roller conveyors. They break or get replaced and I take them home just for this. E mail me your address and I'll mail you some.
::Jon.
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3/24/2010 9:20:16 AMBill G.
Hi Jon,

You have to be careful about the kind of 'O' ring you use. I found that the life span of the 'O' rings used in auto transmissions was only aobut two years. It seems they are made assuming they will be submurged in oil.
I have started using 'O' fings harvested from water filters. I have two in a Zenith 5S127 I use daily and they have worked fine for the past 5 years. The filters are made by Pur and are for the kind of water filter that goes on a faucet.

Best Regards,

Bill Grimm



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