Philco Socket Power B Battery Eliminator

4/19/2001 4:59:43 PMLouis Hari

What electrolite is used in a Philco Socket Power B Battery Eliminator. I have several of these and I'd like to put them to use.

4/19/2001 8:55:00 PMJohn McPherson

Hi,
Actually, it is probably not anissue of adding some electrolyte, but rather replacing the caps that are likely entombed in in tar within a metal can.

The consist for a B-253 (marked B-258 in the Philco listing) and B-603 are the same, and they are 2- 2Mfd, 2- 4Mfd, 1- .1Mfd, and 1- .15Mfd, with working voltages around 250 volts for the new manufactured capacitors.

With new caps installed, you may find your voltages a bit higher than the 135 volts suggested on the Rider page, but you can compensate with a different lamp, or you may have it close enough by adjusting the variable resistor. Sometimes too, if the voltage is just too high to make any compensation, change the 2Mfd to a 1 Mfd (maybe even .5 if it does not bring the voltage low enough for a lamp to compensate, and change the 4Mfd to 2Mfd, or even 1Mfd.

http://ww3.nostalgiaair.org/schematics/PHL/_PHL_1-1.gif is the url for the Rider page on this site. If yours are different from this description, chances are good that they will be of the same, or very similar design that incorporates a rectifier. The schematic shows the lugs that should connect to gas rectifier(s) in some combination, such as a BH or a BR.

: What electrolite is used in a Philco Socket Power B Battery Eliminator. I have several of these and I'd like to put them to use.

4/24/2001 2:40:14 PMLouis Hari

: Hi,
: Actually, it is probably not anissue of adding some electrolyte, but rather replacing the caps that are likely entombed in in tar within a metal can.

: The consist for a B-253 (marked B-258 in the Philco listing) and B-603 are the same, and they are 2- 2Mfd, 2- 4Mfd, 1- .1Mfd, and 1- .15Mfd, with working voltages around 250 volts for the new manufactured capacitors.

: With new caps installed, you may find your voltages a bit higher than the 135 volts suggested on the Rider page, but you can compensate with a different lamp, or you may have it close enough by adjusting the variable resistor. Sometimes too, if the voltage is just too high to make any compensation, change the 2Mfd to a 1 Mfd (maybe even .5 if it does not bring the voltage low enough for a lamp to compensate, and change the 4Mfd to 2Mfd, or even 1Mfd.

: http://ww3.nostalgiaair.org/schematics/PHL/_PHL_1-1.gif is the url for the Rider page on this site. If yours are different from this description, chances are good that they will be of the same, or very similar design that incorporates a rectifier. The schematic shows the lugs that should connect to gas rectifier(s) in some combination, such as a BH or a BR.

: : What electrolite is used in a Philco Socket Power B Battery Eliminator. I have several of these and I'd like to put them to use.

: John, thanks for the advice.

4/24/2001 2:40:22 PMLouis Hari

: Hi,
: Actually, it is probably not anissue of adding some electrolyte, but rather replacing the caps that are likely entombed in in tar within a metal can.

: The consist for a B-253 (marked B-258 in the Philco listing) and B-603 are the same, and they are 2- 2Mfd, 2- 4Mfd, 1- .1Mfd, and 1- .15Mfd, with working voltages around 250 volts for the new manufactured capacitors.

: With new caps installed, you may find your voltages a bit higher than the 135 volts suggested on the Rider page, but you can compensate with a different lamp, or you may have it close enough by adjusting the variable resistor. Sometimes too, if the voltage is just too high to make any compensation, change the 2Mfd to a 1 Mfd (maybe even .5 if it does not bring the voltage low enough for a lamp to compensate, and change the 4Mfd to 2Mfd, or even 1Mfd.

: http://ww3.nostalgiaair.org/schematics/PHL/_PHL_1-1.gif is the url for the Rider page on this site. If yours are different from this description, chances are good that they will be of the same, or very similar design that incorporates a rectifier. The schematic shows the lugs that should connect to gas rectifier(s) in some combination, such as a BH or a BR.

: : What electrolite is used in a Philco Socket Power B Battery Eliminator. I have several of these and I'd like to put them to use.

: John, thanks for the advice.

4/21/2001 10:05:24 AMDon Black

Hi Louis, Do these eliminators use electrolytic rectifiers? Don Black.

: What electrolite is used in a Philco Socket Power B Battery Eliminator. I have several of these and I'd like to put them to use.

4/24/2001 2:27:49 PMLouis Hari

: Hi Louis, Do these eliminators use electrolytic rectifiers? Don Black.

: : What electrolite is used in a Philco Socket Power B Battery Eliminator. I have several of these and I'd like to put them to use.

: Don, there are four electrolytic cells.

5/3/2003 4:15:14 AMAl Ferreira

:Hi Louis, Do these eliminators use electrolytic rectifiers? Don Black.
:
:: What electrolite is used in a Philco Socket Power B Battery Eliminator. I have several of these and I'd like to put them to use.
:
:Hello Don,
I just acquired a Philco Socket Power B myself. Did you ever find out how to use it? Any advise would be appreciated.
Thanks,.........AL

5/6/2003 4:09:42 PMLou Hari

::Hi Louis, Do these eliminators use electrolytic rectifiers? Don Black.
::
::: What electrolite is used in a Philco Socket Power B Battery Eliminator. I have several of these and I'd like to put them to use.
::
::Hello Don,
: I just acquired a Philco Socket Power B myself. Did you ever find out how to use it? Any advise would be appreciated.
: Thanks,.........AL

5/6/2003 4:18:45 PMLou Hari

::Hi Louis, Do these eliminators use electrolytic rectifiers? Don Black.
::
::: What electrolite is used in a Philco Socket Power B Battery Eliminator. I have several of these and I'd like to put them to use.
::
::Hello Don,
: I just acquired a Philco Socket Power B myself. Did you ever find out how to use it? Any advise would be appreciated.
: Thanks,.........AL

Al,
I've had considerable success in restoring two Philco Socket Power B units. After cleaning them up, checking the wiring and caps (they were still good), I used a diluted solution of 20 Mule Team Borax as an electrolite. They both worked well enough to power my battery sets.

Lou

4/21/2001 8:24:11 PMAlan Douglas

: What electrolite is used in a Philco Socket Power B Battery Eliminator.

A saturated solution of boric acid, probably. I would certainly put a 100W lamp in series with the power line, if you decide to play with these, or lay in a big supply of house fuses.

4/24/2001 2:24:39 PMLouis Hari

:Thanks, the boric acid solution worked fine.
:What electrolite is used in a Philco Socket Power B Battery Eliminator.

:A saturated solution of boric acid, probably. I would certainly put a 100W lamp in series with the power line, if you decide to play with these, or lay in a big supply of house fuses.