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Help with RCA console
10/28/2009 10:23:22 PMSteve
Was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on how to hook up a modern turntable to the phono input on a 1956 RCA console unit. The old turntable is shot and I would like to just hook a new unit into it. The problem is that the old connector has 3 small prongs. Any new unit will have the 2 stereo rca type connector. Why does the old unit have 3 prongs?
Thanks,
Steve
10/28/2009 11:46:14 PMWarren
The old unit was not stereo. Was only Mono. The Old 3 pin connector, two pins were from the cartridge, the third pin is ground. You can rewire the stereo cartrige as mono. And still be able to use the three pin connectors.
10/29/2009 8:00:27 AMSteve
Warren, thanks for the reply. Maybe my first message was a bit confusing. The unit is stereo and mono, it has a push button switch for that. The three pins I am talking about are the connection from the turntable to the back of the amp/receiver. There is three small male prongs to hook into the female end on the amp/receiver. Were you talking about the needle/cartridge? If not I apologize. Thanks for you help. It is appreciated.

Steve


:The old unit was not stereo. Was only Mono. The Old 3 pin connector, two pins were from the cartridge, the third pin is ground. You can rewire the stereo cartrige as mono. And still be able to use the three pin connectors.
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10/29/2009 12:23:20 PMWarren
Okay then. Your 1956 unit is known as Ortophonic. As far as I knew true stereo came out from RCA in 1958. But if your old turntable is stereo, and has a 3 pin connector from the phono cartridge to the audio input on the amp. You can take an ohm meter, find the 2 pins on the 3 pin connector that are the left, and right channel. The 3rd pin would be shared by both channels.
Cut off the RCA male ends on the new turntable. Connect the outside shields together. Connect the shielded wires now to that 3rd shared pin. The outer 2 wires now connect to the left, and right pins on the old 3 pin connector, from the old turntable.
10/29/2009 2:42:32 PMBill VA
:Okay then. Your 1956 unit is known as Ortophonic. As far as I knew true stereo came out from RCA in 1958. But if your old turntable is stereo, and has a 3 pin connector from the phono cartridge to the audio input on the amp. You can take an ohm meter, find the 2 pins on the 3 pin connector that are the left, and right channel. The 3rd pin would be shared by both channels.
: Cut off the RCA male ends on the new turntable. Connect the outside shields together. Connect the shielded wires now to that 3rd shared pin. The outer 2 wires now connect to the left, and right pins on the old 3 pin connector, from the old turntable.
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10/29/2009 2:49:25 PMWarren
That " Green " wire is to ground the motor mountings and tone arm mechanics with the common grounds of the amplifier. Without that the amp picks up hum.
10/29/2009 5:31:11 PMSteve
Thanks for all the excellent help. I really appreciate it. I am going to get a new turntable this weekend and do what you suggested. Thanks again.

Steve

:That " Green " wire is to ground the motor mountings and tone arm mechanics with the common grounds of the amplifier. Without that the amp picks up hum.
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10/29/2009 3:22:52 PMEdd









Sir Steve . . . . .


I feel sure that the old style of mini-ovaloid-black connector plug which RCA used to use, is that to which
you are most assuredly referring.


Here in this units application, you can see it being used both for low level audio ( phono cart input) as
well as its outputting for an intermediate level audio.


Also, the keying of the center ground pin, such that it was a bit off center. As is being easily discernible on the unused tape input jack.


Color coding of red for right channel and clear for left channel.


And, Warren, upgrade that "Ortoponic" up to the full fledged Orthophonic High Fidelity


Seems like the best sounding little unit around that timeframe was the RCA unit I have shown at the bottom,
even though its electronics for the amp was no more than a simple AC-DC amplifier.


In my personal estimation, it was the Bose "Soundwave" of that time frame in a small unit.


However, the speakers that they chose, along with utilization of two spatially dispersed hard cone tweeters, certainly helped in the overall sound
performance of the unit.


(Didn't go for those stick legs, however , with the possible one aspect of making them tolerable, was the their choice of gold
for their color.)


Visual References:












. . . . . 73's de Edd











:Okay then. Your 1956 unit is known as Ortophonic. As far as I knew true stereo came out from RCA in 1958. But if your old turntable is stereo, and has a 3 pin connector from the phono cartridge to the audio input on the amp. You can take an ohm meter, find the 2 pins on the 3 pin connector that are the left, and right channel. The 3rd pin would be shared by both channels.
: Cut off the RCA male ends on the new turntable. Connect the outside shields together. Connect the shielded wires now to that 3rd shared pin. The outer 2 wires now connect to the left, and right pins on the old 3 pin connector, from the old turntable.
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10/29/2009 7:58:35 PMWarren
Did butcher that word " Orthophonic High Fidelity " Don't think I have ever used that word before anyway. Even back in 1956,


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