RCA Victor Model 50 (1946/7?)

4/21/2009 9:22:48 AMBruno Bourgoin

Good Morning,

My name is Bruno Bourgoin, and I am writting from Toronto, Ontario, Canada. To put it plainly and briefly I am a huge geek, owning multiple servers for my apartment.

Having said that, I have, as of late, had an increasing desire to "return to roots". Last weekend, I purchased 2 tube radios from a pawn shop/flea market.

I am now trying to find owner's manual and or schematic for each of them. One of them doesn't even seem to exist in any list or website.

It is an RCA Victor "Model 50" built in Canada circa 1946/7. Does anyone have any information on this radio?

Here is a photo from someone else who has one:
http://www.bubbleshare.com/album/546530/overview

Thanks to all of you who may try to help.

Bruno

4/21/2009 11:34:00 AMEd Kraushar

Hi, your radio could be a VR-50. Tubes in that one are 6SA7, 6SK7, 6SQ7, 6U5, 6F6G & 5Y4G. If those match I can probably find a schematic. They also made a R-50 with 3 X 58, 3 X 56, 47 and 80 tubes, a much earlier radio.

Ed.

4/21/2009 1:54:42 PMBruno Bourgoin

Hi, Thanks for the quick reply. I checked the schematics on this site for those radios - well, the R-50 anyway, and nope. None of the radios with a 50 in them (B50, M50, etc) are the right one. They all have the wrong number of tubes or control knobs.

Is there anything else I can provide to help Identify the radio?

Bruno

4/21/2009 7:23:36 PMEd Kraushar

Hi Bruno, I think I have located the data you want. It is posted at--

www.nexicom.net/~oidar/rca50.pdf

Ed.

4/21/2009 9:55:07 PMBruno

That's it!!!

I don't know why I couldn't find this in any list or other sites. Any ideas?

Thank you so much for your help. Now, I'm going to try to find the same thing for the Silvertone Wayfarer 8224 I bought.

Thanks again for you help.

Bruno

4/22/2009 10:00:26 AMEd Kraushar

Not many Canadian radios are posted online in sites such as this one's "Resources" section. Those that are posted are earlier versions. The RCA 50 is from my schematic collection and CD of Canadian schematics.

Your Silvertone model sounds like it may have been made in the USA. The model number is similar to those made for Sears. It could have been made in Canada though. Are there any other numbers on the back of the chassis.

Ed.

4/22/2009 11:29:18 AMBruno

Ed,

I know for a fact that is was made by/for Sears & Roebuck Co. I believe it is Canadian as well. I will get more information from it tonight and post it. Thank you very much fo ryour continued help.

Here is what looks like an identical model to mine:
http://www.suertenich.com/html/radios/sears_8224.html

Bruno

4/27/2009 1:01:35 PMBruno

Sorry Ed,

Got busy. Will check tonight, and post tomorrow.

Bruno

4/27/2009 9:12:31 PMBruno

Ok, here's the info...

W464 is written on pretty well all pieces of paper (scematic, layout, etc).

The chassis number is: C817.46450

It was built by Simpson Sears / Sears Roebuck

All labels were printed in the USA, but there's an additional sticker on the inside top that states "Licensed in Canada Under Patent and Patent Rights Of Canadian Radio Patents Limited".

I hope this helps. I had no luck looking up W464 or the full chassis number. Maybe it's in your book of Canadian Radios.

Thanks again Ed.

Bruno

4/29/2009 9:30:57 AMEd Kraushar

Hi, I was unable to find that number in my data. There are several C817-XXXXX but not that one.

It is possible that it was USA made and imported or perhaps later production than my schematic collection.

Perhaps posting in the forums section of www.antiqueradios.com would locate someone with that schematic.

Ed.

4/29/2009 6:44:28 PMBruno

Ed,

Again, many thanks regardless of the outcome. I appreciate a helping hand nonetheless.

Bruno

4/30/2009 6:36:12 AMAndy Rolfe

Bruno; The Silvertone 7224 and the 8224 were made in both Canada and the USA. The 2 sets are identical except for the knobs and the cabinet colours. The 7224 is brown leatherette and the 8224 is grey and black. The Sams Photofact folder is Set 382, Folder 11, dated 12-57. I have both the 7224 and the 8224 radios; in fact my 7224 is posted on E-bay #300310521853 right now. I could mail you a copy of this photofact if you need it. Send me your address.

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:Thanks again for you help.
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5/13/2009 5:53:12 PMBruno

Andy,

Thank you so much for the offer. If you can send me your email, I'll send you my address. My email is brunobourgoin@rogers.com
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:Bruno; The Silvertone 7224 and the 8224 were made in both Canada and the USA. The 2 sets are identical except for the knobs and the cabinet colours. The 7224 is brown leatherette and the 8224 is grey and black. The Sams Photofact folder is Set 382, Folder 11, dated 12-57. I have both the 7224 and the 8224 radios; in fact my 7224 is posted on E-bay #300310521853 right now. I could mail you a copy of this photofact if you need it. Send me your address.
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5/14/2009 5:48:40 AMAndy Rolfe

Bruno; Go to my original post and place the cursor over my name where it reads "Posted by Andy Rolfe....". My name will highlight in blue and if you click on this it will give you my E-mail address.

Andy

8/17/2009 10:59:34 PMBruno Bourgoin

Ed,

My computer was recently infected and I lost the file you sent me a few months back (see below).

I was wondering if you could possibly send it to me again? I promise, I will back it up this time. I was lucky to have backed up most things, but this file was a casualty.

Thank so much for you help. I appreciate it.

Bruno

:Hi Bruno, I think I have located the data you want. It is posted at--
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:www.nexicom.net/~oidar/rca50.pdf
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:Ed.

8/18/2009 11:14:56 AMEd Kraushar

Emailed.

Ed.

4/22/2009 11:07:58 AMBill G.

Hi Bruno,
It looks like it will play AM740 really well all day long. I listen to it here in DC, but only in the evening.
Restoring a radio is great. Finding that it is worth listening to is even better.

Best Regards,

Bill Grimm

4/22/2009 11:26:11 AMBruno

Bill,

It was rather serendipitous that when I listened to it for the first time, it was Sunday night, and the first station I dialed in to was AM740. What was playing? Benny Goodman, and a whole program of music from the golden era of radio.

Bruno

4/22/2009 2:32:21 PMBill G.

:Bill,
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:It was rather serendipitous that when I listened to it for the first time, it was Sunday night, and the first station I dialed in to was AM740. What was playing? Benny Goodman, and a whole program of music from the golden era of radio.
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:Bruno
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Hi Bruno,
These radios become complete works of art only when playing music like that. I am really glad AM740 is there.
In this area we have two low budget stations that play vintage music, but they fade out at night.
Since it has 50,000 watts and a good antenna system, I suspect you may have a problem getting it in places you don't want it.

Enjoy!

Best Regards,

Bill Grimm

4/22/2009 7:22:09 PMZ-

:Good Morning,
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:My name is Bruno Bourgoin,

Hi Bruno,

My ex-wife is a Bourgoin from Squatec, Qc. Are you related? There aren't that many Bourgoin in Canada.

Syl

4/27/2009 1:00:49 PMBruno

Hi,

Afraid not. My family is from NB. Settled there in 1700s when they came from France. Never went into Quebec.

Bruno

4/29/2009 10:23:41 AMChris

:Good Morning,
:
:My name is Bruno Bourgoin, and I am writting from Toronto, Ontario, Canada. To put it plainly and briefly I am a huge geek, owning multiple servers for my apartment.
:
:Having said that, I have, as of late, had an increasing desire to "return to roots". Last weekend, I purchased 2 tube radios from a pawn shop/flea market.
:
:I am now trying to find owner's manual and or schematic for each of them. One of them doesn't even seem to exist in any list or website.
:
:It is an RCA Victor "Model 50" built in Canada circa 1946/7. Does anyone have any information on this radio?
:
:Here is a photo from someone else who has one:
:http://www.bubbleshare.com/album/546530/overview
:
:Thanks to all of you who may try to help.
:
:Bruno
:How funny is that????????!!!I am from Brantford not to far from you.I could possibly be an even bigger tube radio geek than you!I just recently purchased an RCA VRA-57 (RADIO PHONO) with pull out drawer from a flea market and do you think I could find a schematic for that?Maybe I can find the schematic at the same place you found yours.Mine uses 6SA7 6SK7 6K6 5Y3 AND I think 6SQ7.Mine has a 25 cycle transformer.I am going to begin restoration on it.My email is chrsshippam@gmail.com if you would like to talk radios and restoration. Cheers

4/29/2009 8:10:51 PMEd Kraushar

Hi Chris,

Your schematic is posted at--

www.nexicom.net/~oidar/rcavra57.pdf

Ed.

4/29/2009 8:30:10 PMChris

:Hi Chris,
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:Your schematic is posted at--
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:www.nexicom.net/~oidar/rcavra57.pdf
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:Ed. THANKS ED!!

5/12/2009 7:25:19 AMEdd

Sir Bruno:

Lets see if this refresh gets you back up and reeeee-seeeearching again.

If not, go to :

http://www.nostalgiaair.org/forums/messages/357/m0073357.htm

and then check it ouuutttt.