About what year is it ? If it's in the 30's it very well could be made by Belmont. Give a tube line up on your next post.
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The schematic is in Sam's 677-6.
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i dont know what year it is.im guessing in the 60s.it is stereo and says high fidelity.it is a console type with phono.still cant get any info on it
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:i dont know what year it is.im guessing in the 60s.it is stereo and says high fidelity.it is a console type with phono.still cant get any info on it
SAMS 677-6 was published Feb 1964. That's close enough to date it. You could look for a mfr'd date somewhere on the console.
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If you aren't getting any reception or it's kinda weak, then, after checking voltages and such, you should check the IF transformers. The silvered mica capacitors they often contain get oxidized. They can either become leaky or open, causing the radio to perform poorly, or not at all. Though it is a bit of a job, these capacitors can be removed, and new reliable units can be soldered to the underside of the IF transformer being repaired.
If the amplifier is working well (try feeding it with a CD player), but the phonograph won't work, the cartridge may need replacing. 1960s phono cartridges are fairly common, and if you can't find one, there's usually another that'll do the trick. It's best, regardless of whether the unit is stereo or mono, to use a stereo cartridge as a replacement. That way you'll be kinder to your stereo records, as they aren't supposed to be played with a monoral cartridge because monoral cartridges often don't have the vertical compliance required by stereo records, though you can technically play stereo records on a mono cartridge, and they usually sound fine, but wear out prematurely.
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:T.thank you very much guys.i have no electronic experience whatsoever luckily my father has the tube testers and such.to diagnose problems with the old tube types.i appreciate yall responding to my questions.and maybe ill get it sorted out soon.i have been longing for that mellow sound that i grew up with for quite some time and with any luck ill be listening to records before long.i know that one channel is not working.the right i believe.could this be a sign of the permanent capacitors being gone
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WHUT ? . . and I thought that I was being conservative on its sizing, as compared to some others that I have done. Compare that to some of the old Red Riders stufffff that we just have to squint our eyes on verrrry hard and then hope that you are right, since no other documentation was available on that aged equipment . . . this is relatively NEW stuff. If needing just but a few specifics I CAN go back in and clarify some areas on that schema. BUT . . . initially try the placing of ye olde meece pointer in the very center of the schema and then right click to then find that you then have the options dialog box showing. |
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I don't mean to be ungrateful. I really appreciate that this is the ONLY site I've been able to find that particular schematic and I appreciate all the work you did in scanning it to an electronic file.
My uncle owned the Wards Airline Radio/phono console that this schematic covers and he passed away recently but said I could have the console. Now I am really interested in restoring some of the components to better working condition. The wood work was really beautiful by the way.
I was just trying to see if there was a way I could beg, plead and generally cajole someone into making a higher bit depth scan that could be emailed to me possibly? If it could also be posted as an alternative download that would be great.
Again, I really appreciate the posting of this file. When I saved it to my drive and tried to print it out there just isn't enough detail to get a good print.
If you need my email address I can provide it off-line if it isn't part of the forum links.
I really dig the old tube gear and have quite a bit of it in various stages of repair (or dis-repair as the case may be) ;^)
I understand if you don't want to hassle with a new scan and I can probably figure out most of it. I just like to have good schematic reprints in my notebook to refer back to.
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Gee, I believe I mentioned that over 5 years ago.