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Speaker reconning
8/20/2008 9:35:10 AMMark
Hi gang!

I'm 90% finished with a restoration of a Motorola 77XM21.

Problem: Speaker cone is shot.
I need a contact of someone who recones at a reasonable price/

I conatcted one person but $45-50 is more than I'm willing to spend.

The speaker is a 5" 3.2 ohm voice coil.

Not just any speaker will fit in this cabinet. On the inside grill and part of the grill is a snug-fitting ring the speaker sits in.

Thanks for your help!!

Mark

8/20/2008 10:28:18 AMZ-
:Hi gang!
::I need a contact of someone who recones at a reasonable price/
:
:Mark

Depends what your definition of "reasonable" is.

Sy

8/20/2008 1:23:01 PMDel in MN
It is worth $40 to $50 unless you can do it yourself.
8/20/2008 10:28:37 AMZ-
:Hi gang!
::I need a contact of someone who recones at a reasonable price/
:
:Mark

Depends what your definition of "reasonable" is.

Syl

8/20/2008 11:11:33 AMDennis Wess
Mark,

Been there......

As Syl says.....depends on what you define as "reasonable". I don't think that you will be able to get a speaker reconed by an experienced & recommended person for less than the price you mention. If you find someone please let us all know.

The key words here are ....."experienced & recommended"

8/20/2008 1:01:15 PMMark
Wow!

I had no idea it would be that expensive.

Thanks!
Mark

8/20/2008 2:18:47 PMdel in MN
Reasonable? the speaker cone must cost $10 all by itself for a 1940s or before radio. To have some one mount a new cone, center it, re glue it for another $30 is very reasonable. Try your local Zenith dealer to see what it costs to fix a TV or your car dealer to put in a new 'whatever'.
8/20/2008 1:21:33 PMdel in MN
I always send to Hank Brazeal as he does great re coning.
8/20/2008 1:24:20 PMDennis Wess
QUOTE: "I always send to Hank Brazeal as he does great re coning."

Yup----the epitome of "experienced & recommended".

8/20/2008 1:35:07 PMdel in mn
I just send speaker for Philco 70 to Hank for reconing. No one better as far as I know.
8/20/2008 9:01:01 PMPeter G. Balazsy
Mark:
I buy new cones for about 40 cents and dow a sort-of home-brew recone job that works well for me.

Go over to ARF and read my reply-post there where I explain how and where I buy them with pictures:
http://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=76730&highlight=

8/20/2008 9:47:42 PMZ-
:Mark:
:I buy new cones for about 40 cents...

...and you get a 40 cents worth result.

At least the OP gets to see both extremes in restoration standards.

Syl

8/21/2008 2:08:10 AMPeter G. Balazsy
Sly:
You think my results are only worth 40 cents? ...

Guess like your opinion which is only worth 2cents Canadian = zero U.S.

You have nothing whatsoever to base your negative judgment on. You've NEVER listened to a partial re-cone that I've done... Have you?
... Therefore until you do you should withhold any of your typical un-educated nasty criticisms.. no?

8/21/2008 6:53:14 PMLewis Linson
:Sly:
:You think my results are only worth 40 cents? ...
:
:Guess like your opinion which is only worth 2cents Canadian = zero U.S.
:
:You have nothing whatsoever to base your negative judgment on. You've NEVER listened to a partial re-cone that I've done... Have you?
:... Therefore until you do you should withhold any of your typical un-educated nasty criticisms.. no?

Sir Peter:
I have seen some of your art work with a camera, and if your ears are as good as your eyes, you know of what speak.
Lewis

8/22/2008 12:08:01 AMPeter G. Balazsy
Appreciated Lewis :-))
8/22/2008 12:30:08 AMZ-
:Sly:
:You think my results are only worth 40 cents? ...

The pizza speaker has to be the worst restoration job I ahd to see so far. The rest if fine (and sometimes pretty nice) and I've said so before. But that pizza speaker? Gimme a break. Take it as a positive criticism.

Besides, biggot comments (that 2 cents...) are childish, keep these for ARF.

Regards,
Syl

8/21/2008 7:04:58 PMkartijs r us
take a look at syls catridge hack jobs for a laugh

::Mark:
::I buy new cones for about 40 cents...
:
:...and you get a 40 cents worth result.
:
:At least the OP gets to see both extremes in restoration standards.
:
:Syl

8/22/2008 1:04:00 AMPeter G. Balazsy
Syl:
Look Syl... let me try to appeal to you somehow.
You seem to have a penchant for going on the attack without cause. You seem to delight in it!

Your reputation follows you around.

Now...You might be a good guy down inside and even very knowledgeable too.
.. but your aggressive unwarranted attacking of people is your downfall...
Take a tip... and just ease up.
I'm sure you have a lot to contribute... so stay on the positive side... ok?

Just because it doesn't look "pretty" doesn't mean it doesn't work well or sound wonderful.

You may not look so pretty yourself either but it doesn't mean you don't do the job well.

So please be accurate with the nature of your criticism. And WHY be critical at all anyway? Y'know?
Do you derive some sick pleasure from it?

And... remember this... there are many things that may not look so good.
.. yet are highly sought after and sure are fine...lol

8/22/2008 10:05:10 AMZ-
:Syl:
:Look Syl... let me try to appeal to you somehow.

Yeah right...Pathetic personal attack as usual.

Well here's some food for thought.

You obviously don't know much about proper radio restoration and yet you run around and give advises. Your numerous "oops I'm an idiot" are a proof by themselves. The positive side is they are funny to read. Actually the funniest part is where you try your best to circumvent a problem with all sort of weird patches and wrong diagnosis instead of addressing it because you don't know or believe you do.

As for THIS particular post, if you dare compare your work to Hank's and tell the OP he can do the same job for 40 cents is...well...Wrong and THAT is my cause, whether you like it or not.

Yeah I take pleasure _correcting_ those thinking they know everything and go around spreading bad advises.
Your speaker job is a 40 cents job, whether _you_ think it sounds good or not, it still looks bad and is improperly done and that is my point. It doesn't cost much more to get the right cones (it is easily available out there, I've given the link before) but hey...if Syl says so, no way will I listen...Right?

My reputation follows me and it is a very good one thank you. I've been helping others for years and sharing only what I know and do right. If someone come to me and show me a better way to do something then I'll gladly adopt his way and be happy to give credit.
The total opposite of people like _you_. You don't listen 'cause you think you're the best. But frankly I don't care. I don't post to be friend with anyone, only to share _good_ advises, tricks, how-to, links to others making it right.... Those taking the time can tell who's right or wrong and I will leave it to them to decide. Maybe you should read more and do it right for once and quit playing the primadona. I only disagreed with the "results" but YOU had to get personal and made a bigot comment, how little you are. From now on, I'll consider you a lost cause and selfish individual who only post to get bravos for his "work" but I will continue to post the right way. Not _my_ way...

Grow up.

Syl

8/22/2008 10:47:18 AMThis is a hobby, right?
One person's definition of "proper" restoration may differ from another's, true? For me, I "restore" radios for my own satisfaction and daily use, so my definition of "proper" is probably different for the person who completely breaks a set down and restores it to an "out of the box" condition. While my sets wouldn't be Smithsonian "shelf queen" display units, I don't care. They look good to me, play well and that's what is important. I get personal satisfaction of getting an old non working unit playing again and making the cabinet presentable if need be.

It's a hobby folks, if you don't care for someone's work or methods, show some respect and keep the snide comments to yourself.

Just my .02

8/22/2008 8:44:04 PMPeter G. Balazsy
Syl:
Give it a break.. and take a breath!
You are quite thin-skinned aren't you ...for a guy who seems to like to dish it out.. but can't take it... lol

Ha... Are you serious??
You think that when I said your 2 cents opinion was worth zero that this is a "bigoted" remark?... give me a break...lol

Now stop being silly... tsk tsk
AND...I didn't compare my work to Hanks.

All I did was offer up a place that I buy speaker cones and showed how I do it.

I have never made claims that a partial re-cone is best. It is simply an expedient low cost solution when you need it.

8/22/2008 10:00:30 PMBob Z (don't confuse me with 'Z')
Dont't confuse me with 'Z', it is not me. I appreciate any and all advice I have gotten from this forum.

:Syl:
:Give it a break.. and take a breath!
:You are quite thin-skinned aren't you ...for a guy who seems to like to dish it out.. but can't take it... lol
:
:Ha... Are you serious??
:You think that when I said your 2 cents opinion was worth zero that this is a "bigoted" remark?... give me a break...lol
:
:Now stop being silly... tsk tsk
:AND...I didn't compare my work to Hanks.
:
:All I did was offer up a place that I buy speaker cones and showed how I do it.
:
:I have never made claims that a partial re-cone is best. It is simply an expedient low cost solution when you need it.
:
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