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antique cigar lighter question
7/9/2008 6:49:20 PMdel in mn
What provided the 1/2 inch or so blue spark in these old stand up in the wood box lighters? Thanks.
7/9/2008 8:11:39 PMGary W. Prutchick
Hey Del,

Wouldn't an antique cigar be too dry to light! LOL

Gary

:What provided the 1/2 inch or so blue spark in these old stand up in the wood box lighters? Thanks.

7/10/2008 9:37:11 AMJGJ
They used a battery-powered spark coil to ignite the wick....

See this site: (copy and paste to your address bar)

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.antiquemystique.com/images/9021e.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.antiquemystique.com/pages/9021_jpg.htm&h=480&w=640&sz=76&hl=en&start=43&um=1&tbnid=sEvHAy7ziU7R9M:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dantique%2Bcigar%2Blighter%26start%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1T4DKUS_enUS258US262%26sa%3DN

Reproduction cigar lighters of this type are still being made...

7/10/2008 9:39:45 AMJGJ
Reproduction model...

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.delmarfinecigars.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/Electrolighter.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.delmarfinecigars.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc%3FScreen%3DPROD%26Store_Code%3DDMFC%26Product_Code%3DCSON-ELTCL-BO%26Category_Code%3DCL&h=482&w=320&sz=158&hl=en&start=7&um=1&tbnid=VlVW9lF43AiM0M:&tbnh=129&tbnw=86&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dantique%2Bcigar%2Blighters%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1T4DKUS_enUS258US262%26sa%3DN

7/10/2008 11:03:31 AMEdd







Or… here’s a quickie, in case that lo o o o o o o ng one gets corrupted:


CEEGAR LIGHTER LINK..you clickee…CLICKEE me. . . .pleeeez !


I have never seen such, I can certainly see the innards and the electro
modus operandi…I was really sort of expecting to see an old model T coil
nestled down inside for the HV provision.

Now, can anyone fill in as to the lift off cylinder at the front with its frontal
finger tab and if that was containing a lighter fluid with that spark from the electrode above merely initially lighting a fluid / wick such that it was what lit the Cee-gar,
and did one then blow out the flame when thru lighting up?


Boy…. I can already see the potential for a mod on that unit such that when one hit the button, the customer would get lit up. . . . instead of the cigar .


Reproduction model ??? looks like the original to me.


73's de Edd


7/10/2008 1:00:30 PMdel in MN
Another great idea to wake up the cat.
7/10/2008 7:36:04 PM{:o)<=
:Another great idea to wake up the cat.









OK now . . . . with the supplied info that one did not have to blow out the flame, then this is the way that I perceive of the unit functioning.


In looking at the first photo. . . .and here in the sequence is the equivalency of 40,000 words. . . . one sees the electrical internals, with the orange
wire going up to the floating screw on the lid used as a terminal black and routing on up to the crude switch wire assembly. But, that was the way that they sometimes electro crafted, back in the early years of electricity.
Note the spring assembly [Yellow markup box] at the top that holds tension on the lighter barrel assembly on topside.

The whole unit is cantilevered and pivots at the red circle / marked rivet. The whole top metal assembly is getting a

pass through electrical connection via the green arrow referenced terminal lug and its pass through screw. Its tattered wire then

passes down to the spark coil primary connection. The other primary connection to the coil comes up and is the yellow arrow referenced wire that then connects to the other battery terminal.


Check the zinc- carbon battery and the yellow reference box...certainly doesn't seem to read 1.5 VDC nor 6 VDC.


Also reference the yellow arrow, where I mentioned the model T coil influenced spark coil design, with its interrupter adjustment
screw [Magenta Arrow], with the swinging reed contact catching its magnetic influenced action from the coil cores end.

The high voltage passes thru its tattered cambric sleeve and makes a stop on the wooden top at a floating terminal lug and then continues up through the metal housing and terminates up behind the insulator [Hot Pink Arrow] of the top spark electrode assembly.

I assume that the top fuel barrel has a coiled up internal wick routed up thru the right protrusion at the top while the

left protrusion [Brown Arrow] would be a friction fit filler cap plug for the provision of the addition of lighter fluid into the drum.

Now, the lighting action. . . . one presses down on the frontal protruding lever and the whole barrel assembly cantilevers down,

as per the third pics depiction, with the switch closing and activating the spark stream at the top and the ignition of the wick.

At the time of the release of the lever, the spring loaded barrel then swings closed such that the close proximity of the wick to

a massive cold body will no longer permit combustion, and the flame extinguishes.

Thassit. . . . .

Photo referencing:



73's de Edd





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