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Silvertone 1928
3/22/2008 4:45:16 PMFrank Goddard

Hi Folks.

I am repairing a Silvertone 1928. I notice that the tube (1B1) is used as a balast tube. Can anyone tell me why a tube is used in this way rather than a resistor or other cheaper way,

thanks.

Frank Goddard. Doncaster England.

3/23/2008 11:24:43 AMJon
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:Hi Folks.
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:I am repairing a Silvertone 1928. I notice that the tube (1B1) is used as a balast tube. Can anyone tell me why a tube is used in this way rather than a resistor or other cheaper way,
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:thanks.
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:Frank Goddard. Doncaster England.

Frank, My Silvertone model 1926 uses the same ballast and Radiodoc informed me when I was restoring it that it was used to regulate the 3.2v dry cell batteries down to 2 volts for operation. Mine was missing and as long as I supplied 2.o v. I could just jump the pins. The 1B1 is rated @ 1.0v., .36amp., 2.8 ohms. I later found a 1B1 have used it both ways without any problems.
Hope this helps,
Jon.

3/23/2008 12:01:10 PMLewis Linson
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::Hi Folks.
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::I am repairing a Silvertone 1928. I notice that the tube (1B1) is used as a balast tube. Can anyone tell me why a tube is used in this way rather than a resistor or other cheaper way,
::
::thanks.
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::Frank Goddard. Doncaster England.
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:Frank, My Silvertone model 1926 uses the same ballast and Radiodoc informed me when I was restoring it that it was used to regulate the 3.2v dry cell batteries down to 2 volts for operation. Mine was missing and as long as I supplied 2.o v. I could just jump the pins. The 1B1 is rated @ 1.0v., .36amp., 2.8 ohms. I later found a 1B1 have used it both ways without any problems.
:Hope this helps,
:Jon.


Frank:
The reason they used a ballast tube instead of a resistor: the tube filament is made of a metal whose resistance changes with temperature. When the battery is new, the tube filament is warmer and has a higher resistance. As the battery discharges, the filament runs cooler, the resistance is lower, and the current stays about the same. As Jon said, get a steady source of two Volts, and you will not have to compensate for the battery discharging. Jumper the ballast tube, and listen.
Lewis
Lewis

3/23/2008 2:31:22 PMFrank Goddard
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:::Hi Folks.
:::
:::I am repairing a Silvertone 1928. I notice that the tube (1B1) is used as a balast tube. Can anyone tell me why a tube is used in this way rather than a resistor or other cheaper way,
:::
:::thanks.
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:::Frank Goddard. Doncaster England.
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::Frank, My Silvertone model 1926 uses the same ballast and Radiodoc informed me when I was restoring it that it was used to regulate the 3.2v dry cell batteries down to 2 volts for operation. Mine was missing and as long as I supplied 2.o v. I could just jump the pins. The 1B1 is rated @ 1.0v., .36amp., 2.8 ohms. I later found a 1B1 have used it both ways without any problems.
::Hope this helps,
::Jon.
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:Frank:
:The reason they used a ballast tube instead of a resistor: the tube filament is made of a metal whose resistance changes with temperature. When the battery is new, the tube filament is warmer and has a higher resistance. As the battery discharges, the filament runs cooler, the resistance is lower, and the current stays about the same. As Jon said, get a steady source of two Volts, and you will not have to compensate for the battery discharging. Jumper the ballast tube, and listen.
:Lewis
:Lewis


Thank you both. This is great information. When running up the LT I used a 2 volt supply.No wonder the filaments were running low. Perhaps this could explain the very low volume levels too. Anyhow. I am still way off with the repair but now I don't have to look for problems that don't exist. Thanks again. Frank

3/24/2008 4:59:03 AMFrank Goddard
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::::Hi Folks.
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::::I am repairing a Silvertone 1928. I notice that the tube (1B1) is used as a balast tube. Can anyone tell me why a tube is used in this way rather than a resistor or other cheaper way,
::::
::::thanks.
::::
::::Frank Goddard. Doncaster England.
:::
:::Frank, My Silvertone model 1926 uses the same ballast and Radiodoc informed me when I was restoring it that it was used to regulate the 3.2v dry cell batteries down to 2 volts for operation. Mine was missing and as long as I supplied 2.o v. I could just jump the pins. The 1B1 is rated @ 1.0v., .36amp., 2.8 ohms. I later found a 1B1 have used it both ways without any problems.
:::Hope this helps,
:::Jon.
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::Frank:
::The reason they used a ballast tube instead of a resistor: the tube filament is made of a metal whose resistance changes with temperature. When the battery is new, the tube filament is warmer and has a higher resistance. As the battery discharges, the filament runs cooler, the resistance is lower, and the current stays about the same. As Jon said, get a steady source of two Volts, and you will not have to compensate for the battery discharging. Jumper the ballast tube, and listen.
::Lewis
::Lewis
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:
:Thank you both. This is great information. When running up the LT I used a 2 volt supply.No wonder the filaments were running low. Perhaps this could explain the very low volume levels too. Anyhow. I am still way off with the repair but now I don't have to look for problems that don't exist. Thanks again. Frank

One last question. What was the year of manufacture for the Model 1928.Thanks again,

Frank



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