I can provide the Photofact for model 610 (six tube FM only tabletop)however I can find no documentaion for a 610U.
Dennis
Dennis,
I have a photofact set 283 folder 6. It is marked Granco 610. The back of my radio says 610U. May mean the color of the case? I just included it in the model #.
Tony
Those are just my initial thoughts . . . check 'em out .
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:::::Bill,
:::::What is the difference between models 610 and 610U ?
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:::::I can provide the Photofact for model 610 (six tube FM only tabletop)however I can find no documentaion for a 610U.
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:::::Dennis
:::::I don't know if there is a difference. I was using the model number of a picture of my radio. It may refer to the color of the cabinet. Thanks for any help.Bill
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::::I have a photofact set 283 folder 6. It is marked Granco 610. The back of my radio says 610U. May mean the color of the case? I just included it in the model #.
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::::Tony
::::My E-mail is bandsgee@cmaaccess.com
::Bill
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:::I want to thank Tony and Dennis for their help. I have the radio playing now but the small tuning slug is broken. How should I proceed? Some of it is still in the tube.Volume is low. Is that due to slug?
:Bill
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:: :: :: :: ![]() :: :: :: :: :: :: :: ::Sir Bill . . . . :: :: ::Clarification please . . . . . . wheeeeeeeeech slug ? . . . .as there are potentially 2 slugs each in the IF transformateurs along with 2 in ::the ratioless- detecticatorating T-tormer. :: :: ::The RF front ends L4 and osc L4 are air would coils and thereby dependent upon compressing or "knifing" their inductive values. :: :: ::Thereby, being very low inductance and no needed use of associative slugs. :: :: ::How's about taking another analytical path initially . . . . with it being in the respect of checking out that FM detector stages 2 ufd summing capacitor C2 to ::see if time hasn't taken a toll on its electrolyte and is now currently residing waaaaay down in the .1 ufd range. :: :: ::Additionally, is the power supply "healthy" . . . . . and having in the order of its prescribed ~ 130VDC at the plate of the 35C5 tube ? :: :: ::Also is the 19T8's 220 K plate load resistor and its 4.7 meg grid resistors being within tolerances? :: :: ::Also its . . . and the other tubes screen and plate voltage levels. ?
:: :: :: :: :: ::The man who can smile when things go wrong has just thought of someone he can blame it on. :: :: :: :: ![]() :: :: :: |
::: ::: ::: ::: ![]() ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: :::Sir Bill . . . . ::: ::: :::Clarification please . . . . . . wheeeeeeeeech slug ? . . . .as there are potentially 2 slugs each in the IF transformateurs along with 2 in :::the ratioless- detecticatorating T-tormer. ::: ::: :::The RF front ends L4 and osc L4 are air would coils and thereby dependent upon compressing or "knifing" their inductive values. ::: ::: :::Thereby, being very low inductance and no needed use of associative slugs. ::: ::: :::How's about taking another analytical path initially . . . . with it being in the respect of checking out that FM detector stages 2 ufd summing capacitor C2 to :::see if time hasn't taken a toll on its electrolyte and is now currently residing waaaaay down in the .1 ufd range. ::: ::: :::Additionally, is the power supply "healthy" . . . . . and having in the order of its prescribed ~ 130VDC at the plate of the 35C5 tube ? ::: ::: :::Also is the 19T8's 220 K plate load resistor and its 4.7 meg grid resistors being within tolerances? ::: ::: :::Also its . . . and the other tubes screen and plate voltage levels. ?
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Ahhhhhhhhhh Soooooooooo . . . . with your most honnable info . . .and evaluating it, seems like you just might have have found yourself what is called a
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::::Clarification please . . . . . . wheeeeeeeeech slug ? . . . .as there are potentially 2 slugs each in the IF transformateurs along with 2 in
::::the ratioless- detecticatorating T-tormer.
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::::The RF front ends L4 and osc L4 are air would coils and thereby dependent upon compressing or "knifing" their inductive values.
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::::Thereby, being very low inductance and no needed use of associative slugs.
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::::How's about taking another analytical path initially . . . . with it being in the respect of checking out that FM detector stages 2 ufd summing capacitor C2 to
::::see if time hasn't taken a toll on its electrolyte and is now currently residing waaaaay down in the .1 ufd range.
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::::Additionally, is the power supply "healthy" . . . . . and having in the order of its prescribed ~ 130VDC at the plate of the 35C5 tube ?
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::::Also is the 19T8's 220 K plate load resistor and its 4.7 meg grid resistors being within tolerances?
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::::Also its . . . and the other tubes screen and plate voltage levels. ?
::::Also, if you don't happen to have another 19T8 to sub in to evaluate its detector diode sections, pull out a pair of modern day small signal
::::"computer switching" diodes of the 1N4148 0r 1N914 genus and solder tack across the 19T8.
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::::They are as common as dirt in new electronics from the ~70's or even RS has them.
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:::::::::What is the difference between models 610 and 610U ?
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:::::::::I can provide the Photofact for model 610 (six tube FM only tabletop)however I can find no documentaion for a 610U.
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:::::::::Dennis
:::::::::I don't know if there is a difference. I was using the model number of a picture of my radio. It may refer to the color of the cabinet. Thanks for any help.Bill
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::::::::Dennis,
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::::::::I have a photofact set 283 folder 6. It is marked Granco 610. The back of my radio says 610U. May mean the color of the case? I just included it in the model #.
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::::::::Tony
::::::::My E-mail is bandsgee@cmaaccess.com
::::::Bill
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:::::::I want to thank Tony and Dennis for their help. I have the radio playing now but the small tuning slug is broken. How should I proceed? Some of it is still in the tube.Volume is low. Is that due to slug?
:::::Bill
::::::Edd,
:Thanks for replying. I may have to have an interpreter but I think I get most of your comments. I checked the voltage at SR and have 105volts instead of 135. The plate voltages to V1,2,3,4 tubes is 68 instead of 80. Think the filtercaps are bad?
:Earlier,I was trying to say the tuning rod made out of glass or ceramic is broken where it attaches to the plastic mounting holder thing.
:I guess you have already concluded I am new to radio and need a lot of learning.
:Thanks for your help.
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:BUT the SAMS page 3 photo is too poor for me to be able to differentiate it out in the possible area it is used . . . near osc coil L4, possibly as capacitor adjustment A7. It possibly might even be a glass cylinder with L4 being a spiraled flat ribbon wire wound around it, for its required 2 or 3 turns of created inductance.
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:::::Clarification please . . . . . . wheeeeeeeeech slug ? . . . .as there are potentially 2 slugs each in the IF transformateurs along with 2 in
:::::the ratioless- detecticatorating T-tormer.
:::::
:::::
:::::The RF front ends L4 and osc L4 are air would coils and thereby dependent upon compressing or "knifing" their inductive values.
:::::
:::::
:::::Thereby, being very low inductance and no needed use of associative slugs.
:::::
:::::
:::::How's about taking another analytical path initially . . . . with it being in the respect of checking out that FM detector stages 2 ufd summing capacitor C2 to
:::::see if time hasn't taken a toll on its electrolyte and is now currently residing waaaaay down in the .1 ufd range.
:::::
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:::::Additionally, is the power supply "healthy" . . . . . and having in the order of its prescribed ~ 130VDC at the plate of the 35C5 tube ?
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:::::Also is the 19T8's 220 K plate load resistor and its 4.7 meg grid resistors being within tolerances?
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:::::Also its . . . and the other tubes screen and plate voltage levels. ?
:::::Also, if you don't happen to have another 19T8 to sub in to evaluate its detector diode sections, pull out a pair of modern day small signal
:::::"computer switching" diodes of the 1N4148 0r 1N914 genus and solder tack across the 19T8.
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:::::They are as common as dirt in new electronics from the ~70's or even RS has them.
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:::::One diodes cathode will be going to pin # 3 and its anode to # 2.
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::::::::::What is the difference between models 610 and 610U ?
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::::::::::I can provide the Photofact for model 610 (six tube FM only tabletop)however I can find no documentaion for a 610U.
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::::::::::I don't know if there is a difference. I was using the model number of a picture of my radio. It may refer to the color of the cabinet. Thanks for any help.Bill
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:::::::::Dennis,
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:::::::::I have a photofact set 283 folder 6. It is marked Granco 610. The back of my radio says 610U. May mean the color of the case? I just included it in the model #.
:::::::::
:::::::::Tony
:::::::::My E-mail is bandsgee@cmaaccess.com
:::::::Bill
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::::::::I want to thank Tony and Dennis for their help. I have the radio playing now but the small tuning slug is broken. How should I proceed? Some of it is still in the tube.Volume is low. Is that due to slug?
::::::Bill
:::::::Edd,
::Thanks for replying. I may have to have an interpreter but I think I get most of your comments. I checked the voltage at SR and have 105volts instead of 135. The plate voltages to V1,2,3,4 tubes is 68 instead of 80. Think the filtercaps are bad?
::Earlier,I was trying to say the tuning rod made out of glass or ceramic is broken where it attaches to the plastic mounting holder thing.
::I guess you have already concluded I am new to radio and need a lot of learning.
::Thanks for your help.
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:::::Bill,
:::::What is the difference between models 610 and 610U ?
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:::::I can provide the Photofact for model 610 (six tube FM only tabletop)however I can find no documentaion for a 610U.
:::::
:::::Dennis
:::::I don't know if there is a difference. I was using the model number of a picture of my radio. It may refer to the color of the cabinet. Thanks for any help.Bill
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::::Dennis,
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::::I have a photofact set 283 folder 6. It is marked Granco 610. The back of my radio says 610U. May mean the color of the case? I just included it in the model #.
::::
::::Tony
::::My E-mail is bandsgee@cmaaccess.com
::Bill
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:::It has been quite a while since I heard anything new. I have found a glue that is supposed to adhere to glass and metal so I glued the small broken tuning slug to the control arm. So far it is holding. I have a garbled sound on both sides of a tuned station. I read about some caps inside the signal xformers but can't find any information as to the values needed. If i am thinking right, the poor contact in the cans will be the problem with tuning.
:Bill
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: : : : ![]() : : : : : : : :Sir Bill . . . . : : : :I read about some caps inside the signal xformers but can't find any information as to the values needed. If i am thinking right, the poor contact in the cans will be the problem with tuning. : : : :Hold off on suspicioning any caps in IF transformers as being the fault.
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