Troubador radios

9/28/2000 11:47:47 PMSteven Sostrom

I have 2 radios that seem to be made by Troubador. Does anyone know anything about this brand? I cannot find anything at all on the Internet on my books.
Please also send email.Thanks, Steve

9/29/2000 10:52:54 PMJoe_Kindred

I am in the same boat Steve. I have a Troubador radio/phono. I live in Austin, Tx. It is a wooden floor model with three knobs on the front under the dial. The tuner is on the right, a radio/phono switch in the center and the off/on switch on the left.
It is 36" tall, 26" wide, 15 1/2" deep. I noticed that the dial has a label that has Standard Broadcast and the Frequency is in Kilocycles. Does this sound like the same radios that you have? If you run into anything let me know, as I am looking for a tube cross as we speak. It is a Ken-Rad U2E and of course the schematics. Thanks, you are the first we have heard of as we begin to rebuild the radio.

9/29/2000 11:19:53 PMNorm Leal

Hi Joe

Don't have the schematic but Ken-Rad U2E sounds more like a date code than tube number.. Look closely for another number.. Can you take a digital picture of the tube you need? Scanning might also be ok?

Norm

: I am in the same boat Steve. I have a Troubador radio/phono. I live in Austin, Tx. It is a wooden floor model with three knobs on the front under the dial. The tuner is on the right, a radio/phono switch in the center and the off/on switch on the left.
: It is 36" tall, 26" wide, 15 1/2" deep. I noticed that the dial has a label that has Standard Broadcast and the Frequency is in Kilocycles. Does this sound like the same radios that you have? If you run into anything let me know, as I am looking for a tube cross as we speak. It is a Ken-Rad U2E and of course the schematics. Thanks, you are the first we have heard of as we begin to rebuild the radio.

10/4/2000 11:02:06 PMSteven Sostrom

I found some information about Troubador. I found it on a web site. Here's what it said:
Troubadour (W. M. Co. on license tag) - WARWICK MFG CO. Troy - TROY RADIO & TELEV. CO., 1144 S. Olive St., Los Angeles Calif.

It doesn't look like I have the same floor model as Joe. Mine has 4 knobs. I also have a wooden table model. It has a (tube?) labeled Hytron K42B. It sounds like the same wierd thing that you have. I added up the filament voltages on all the other tubes and it leaves 25 volts for this one.??

You will find a large abundance of Ryders info under Warwick on Nostalgia Air.

----Steve

: Hi Joe

: Don't have the schematic but Ken-Rad U2E sounds more like a date code than tube number.. Look closely for another number.. Can you take a digital picture of the tube you need? Scanning might also be ok?

: Norm

: : I am in the same boat Steve. I have a Troubador radio/phono. I live in Austin, Tx. It is a wooden floor model with three knobs on the front under the dial. The tuner is on the right, a radio/phono switch in the center and the off/on switch on the left.
: : It is 36" tall, 26" wide, 15 1/2" deep. I noticed that the dial has a label that has Standard Broadcast and the Frequency is in Kilocycles. Does this sound like the same radios that you have? If you run into anything let me know, as I am looking for a tube cross as we speak. It is a Ken-Rad U2E and of course the schematics. Thanks, you are the first we have heard of as we begin to rebuild the radio.

9/30/2000 10:16:17 AMJoe_Kindred

Thanks Norm..I kinda thought the same about the tube; the numbers weren't crossing. I have a schematic that kinda resembles the Troubador set though. The tube is in the class of a 50L6GT (Power Output Tube). The schematic is in the book "Antique Radio Restoration Guide 2nd Edition". The Ken-Rad tube has its number baked off, so I took a stab. The filament seems open, even at 2000M setting. I am trying to get the power section up, at least get all filaments to burn. Each tube, save the Ken-Rad, has continuity across their filaments. The radio was in such bad shape that I couldn't puzzle together the rectifier and it to has no number. I will boxing it up and taking to Lockhart, Tx. today to talk to Steve Kunz, who is an antique radio repairman. Thanks again, this is my first radio, maybe not the last.

Regards,
Joe Kindred

9/30/2000 11:03:04 AMNorm Leal

Hi Joe

With a filament open it will stop all tubes from lighting. You need to replace the 50L6.

The rectifier should be 35Z5 in a radio using a 50L6.

Norm

: Thanks Norm..I kinda thought the same about the tube; the numbers weren't crossing. I have a schematic that kinda resembles the Troubador set though. The tube is in the class of a 50L6GT (Power Output Tube). The schematic is in the book "Antique Radio Restoration Guide 2nd Edition". The Ken-Rad tube has its number baked off, so I took a stab. The filament seems open, even at 2000M setting. I am trying to get the power section up, at least get all filaments to burn. Each tube, save the Ken-Rad, has continuity across their filaments. The radio was in such bad shape that I couldn't puzzle together the rectifier and it to has no number. I will boxing it up and taking to Lockhart, Tx. today to talk to Steve Kunz, who is an antique radio repairman. Thanks again, this is my first radio, maybe not the last.

: Regards,
: Joe Kindred

10/1/2000 12:04:14 AMJoe_Kindred

Thanks Norm...that is what I thought about the tube's filament being out, based upon the schematic that I saw in the Restoration Guide. I spoke of it in prior post, I noted that the filaments were in series. I did find out that there were three manufacturers of the Troubador; Crosley, Sleeper and Warwick. I believe that the Warwick, Co. was the OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) for Sears, Wards, and Western Auto. It is a nice AM / Phono cabinet. I am taking the entire set, save the cabinet to Lockhart, Tx. tomorrow; he is open on Sundays. Steve Kunz seems to think that it is the tube configuration that you spoke about and if so the absolute basic radio section schematic is in the Antique Radio Restoration Guide.

I'll keep the group here posted on what I find, and if Steve has a schematic; I will get the gentlemen that started this thread a copy via snail mail. I also found out that the entire history of radio in schematics are in the Rider (sp) Series. Knowing the Mfgs. above and the name Troubador, the fellow that inquired first should be able to look up the schemo. I believe that I will have the radio up tomorrow. Believe it or not the 47 indicator lamp was available at Radio Shack, but nary a tube testor. My..how times have changed.

Thanks again!! I am grateful

Regards,
Joe

: Hi Joe

: With a filament open it will stop all tubes from lighting. You need to replace the 50L6.

: The rectifier should be 35Z5 in a radio using a 50L6.

: Norm

: : Thanks Norm..I kinda thought the same about the tube; the numbers weren't crossing. I have a schematic that kinda resembles the Troubador set though. The tube is in the class of a 50L6GT (Power Output Tube). The schematic is in the book "Antique Radio Restoration Guide 2nd Edition". The Ken-Rad tube has its number baked off, so I took a stab. The filament seems open, even at 2000M setting. I am trying to get the power section up, at least get all filaments to burn. Each tube, save the Ken-Rad, has continuity across their filaments. The radio was in such bad shape that I couldn't puzzle together the rectifier and it to has no number. I will boxing it up and taking to Lockhart, Tx. today to talk to Steve Kunz, who is an antique radio repairman. Thanks again, this is my first radio, maybe not the last.

: : Regards,
: : Joe Kindred

10/20/2000 11:25:15 AMChuck Braun

I have a Troubador 5-tube 3-way (AC/DC/Battery) set, and it was made by Warwick. It is an O-501, with schematics available in Rider's.

10/20/2000 11:29:11 AMChuck Braun

I have a Troubador 5-tube 3-way (AC/DC/Battery) set,
which was made by Warwick (W.M. labelled on chassis),
which I found by searching Rider's manuals under the
letter "W", and it is an O-501 3-way portable.