There is a bakelite female socket that connects to 3 prongs on the speaker. (the GE E-71 radio I am working on) How do the wires attach to the female socket? It looks like there might be some kind of a catch and release method to hold the wires into the socket? I cannot figure it out and the reverse side of the receptacle has a cardboard cover riveted to hold it on and I cannot see the insides but I do not think the wires are soldered inside the receptacle. Or are they?
I am wondering if there is a "trick" to releasing the
wire somehow. any help?
Thanks, Bob

:There is a bakelite female socket that connects to 3 prongs on the speaker. (the GE E-71 radio I am working on) How do the wires attach to the female socket? It looks like there might be some kind of a catch and release method to hold the wires into the socket? I cannot figure it out and the reverse side of the receptacle has a cardboard cover riveted to hold it on and I cannot see the insides but I do not think the wires are soldered inside the receptacle. Or are they?
:I am wondering if there is a "trick" to releasing the
:wire somehow. any help?
:Thanks, Bob

Bob, any chance you can get a photo of it on here. A lot of times that "rivit" is the friction type, that is, its forced into a blind hole in the bakelite. That can be tough to remove without damaging the card board cover but maybe the cardboard cover can be fabricated and replaced. May be some member has taken one apart and will pipe up. PL

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Here is the picture....First try anyway :O)
Bob

Bob,
I suspect the wires are soldered to a pin/receptacle, then inserted into the bakelite body and locking in place with a latch on the pin/receptacle. Look closely into the front end of the bakelite part to see if there is a barb on the side of the pin/receptacle, which will have to be disengaged to remove it from the rear.

marv

:There is a bakelite female socket that connects to 3 prongs on the speaker. (the GE E-71 radio I am working on) How do the wires attach to the female socket? It looks like there might be some kind of a catch and release method to hold the wires into the socket? I cannot figure it out and the reverse side of the receptacle has a cardboard cover riveted to hold it on and I cannot see the insides but I do not think the wires are soldered inside the receptacle. Or are they?
:I am wondering if there is a "trick" to releasing the
:wire somehow. any help?
:Thanks, Bob

Bob,
Aha, I see what appears to be a rivet at the front of the assembly. Could be that this part was assembled like a clam shell holding the receptacles captive after the rivet was swaged. Filing, drilling or cutting the swaged rivet from the front should disengaged the two halves, freeing the receptacles. JB Weld or and good epoxy used sparingly can rejoin the two halves after wiring is replaced.

marv

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Well I mangled the cardboard and got inside and discovered that the wires are soldered just at the very tip of the little female receptacles. after butchering and removing that cardboard cover the receptacles easily slides out to disconnect the old and solder in the new.
I will fabricate a new cover and screw it or glue it back over the openings. Case solved.
Bob :O)

:Bob,
:Aha, I see what appears to be a rivet at the front of the assembly. Could be that this part was assembled like a clam shell holding the receptacles captive after the rivet was swaged. Filing, drilling or cutting the swaged rivet from the front should disengaged the two halves, freeing the receptacles. JB Weld or and good epoxy used sparingly can rejoin the two halves after wiring is replaced.
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:marv
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Bob,
Another option would be to tap (threads) the existing rivet hole, and use a pan head screw for re-assembly.

marv

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Thanks for those ideas Marv. I think the socket is only one piece though. I think that rivet only holds
that thin cardboard-like cover on but I will find
out when I remove it.
Thanks, Bob

:Bob,
:Another option would be to tap (threads) the existing rivet hole, and use a pan head screw for re-assembly.
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:marv
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Bob, you might try a piece of thin wall tubing of the right diamete and passing down over the metal insertd which, hopefully, press in any "barbs" that are holding them in there then pull on wire to remove. Worth a try. Metal socket inserts usually have small strips in sides that sgueeze in and pop out after passing ridge in socket body. Once they pop out you cant pull back unless you squeeze then back in from front. PL

:Thanks for those ideas Marv. I think the socket is only one piece though. I think that rivet only holds
:that thin cardboard-like cover on but I will find
:out when I remove it.
:Thanks, Bob
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::Bob,
::Another option would be to tap (threads) the existing rivet hole, and use a pan head screw for re-assembly.
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::marv
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Bob,
The thin wall brass tubing is available at most hobby (read cars, planes, trains) shops. Even some older ball point pens have metal cartridges, which would work in a pinch, if sized correctly.

marv

:Thanks for those ideas Marv. I think the socket is only one piece though. I think that rivet only holds
:that thin cardboard-like cover on but I will find
:out when I remove it.
:Thanks, Bob
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::Bob,
::Another option would be to tap (threads) the existing rivet hole, and use a pan head screw for re-assembly.
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::marv
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