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1/14/2007 9:44:01 AMP.J.
Hello, I am on my first vintage radio and have hit a wall. It is a Pacific Radio model 6322. Someone had removed the electrolytic capacitors and not replaced them. All other capacitors I have replaced with new ones but I cannot figure out where to wire in the electrolytics. I see where the positive goes to the 25Z5 tube, and neg. goes on either side of the choke. The problem is I do not understand what the choke is. Is it the thing that looks like a transformer on top of the chassis, or is it the one on the speaker? Or have I missed it completely? Please forgive my ignorance but I think I have a new hobby.
Thank you for any help-P.J.
1/14/2007 9:59:20 AMMark
: Hello, I am on my first vintage radio and have hit a wall. It is a Pacific Radio model 6322. Someone had removed the electrolytic capacitors and not replaced them. All other capacitors I have replaced with new ones but I cannot figure out where to wire in the electrolytics. I see where the positive goes to the 25Z5 tube, and neg. goes on either side of the choke. The problem is I do not understand what the choke is. Is it the thing that looks like a transformer on top of the chassis, or is it the one on the speaker? Or have I missed it completely? Please forgive my ignorance but I think I have a new hobby.
:Thank you for any help-P.J.
Hi P.J.
It could very well be mounted on top of the chassis and resemble a transformer, look for a transformer that has only 2 leads in the area of where the electrolytics were that should be the choke your looking for, the Transformer for the speaker usually is mounted on the speaker body frame, which contains the Field Winding and matching transformer, hope this helps.
Mark
1/14/2007 11:05:13 AMP.J.
:: Hello, I am on my first vintage radio and have hit a wall. It is a Pacific Radio model 6322. Someone had removed the electrolytic capacitors and not replaced them. All other capacitors I have replaced with new ones but I cannot figure out where to wire in the electrolytics. I see where the positive goes to the 25Z5 tube, and neg. goes on either side of the choke. The problem is I do not understand what the choke is. Is it the thing that looks like a transformer on top of the chassis, or is it the one on the speaker? Or have I missed it completely? Please forgive my ignorance but I think I have a new hobby.
::Thank you for any help-P.J.
:Hi P.J.
: It could very well be mounted on top of the chassis and resemble a transformer, look for a transformer that has only 2 leads in the area of where the electrolytics were that should be the choke your looking for, the Transformer for the speaker usually is mounted on the speaker body frame, which contains the Field Winding and matching transformer, hope this helps.
:Mark

Mark,
I think you got me on the right track. It now receives on strong stations but can only hear it on full volume. It also kicks out a braker if I connect a ground. I guess I have some more work ahead. Thanks for the help.
P.J.


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1/14/2007 12:28:43 PMAnon.
Never connect a ground to an AC/DC radio. AC/DC radios are connected to the line cord. The chassis is live sometimes, which is why you trip your breaker. Since the radio is connected to ground through the line cord, there is no need to ground it by other means anyway. Good thing that you didn't get between the radio and the ground. You would have fried a bit.

http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/823/M0012823.pdf

The above is your schematic. Notice, too, how the choke is between the line cord and the chassis. When you were attempting to ground the chassis, you could have also blown this choke!

The electrolytics (two of them) should have their positives connected to the cathode of the 25Z5. The negative of the larger one should go to the line cord side of the choke. The negative of the smaller one should go to the radio side of the choke.

1/14/2007 2:39:58 PMMark
::: Hello, I am on my first vintage radio and have hit a wall. It is a Pacific Radio model 6322. Someone had removed the electrolytic capacitors and not replaced them. All other capacitors I have replaced with new ones but I cannot figure out where to wire in the electrolytics. I see where the positive goes to the 25Z5 tube, and neg. goes on either side of the choke. The problem is I do not understand what the choke is. Is it the thing that looks like a transformer on top of the chassis, or is it the one on the speaker? Or have I missed it completely? Please forgive my ignorance but I think I have a new hobby.
:::Thank you for any help-P.J.
::Hi P.J.
:: It could very well be mounted on top of the chassis and resemble a transformer, look for a transformer that has only 2 leads in the area of where the electrolytics were that should be the choke your looking for, the Transformer for the speaker usually is mounted on the speaker body frame, which contains the Field Winding and matching transformer, hope this helps.
::Mark
:
:Mark,
:I think you got me on the right track. It now receives on strong stations but can only hear it on full volume. It also kicks out a braker if I connect a ground. I guess I have some more work ahead. Thanks for the help.
:P.J.
:
:
::Hi P.J.
Try replacing the .o1uf off the wiper of the volume control see if that gets your output level up, as far as the ground connection, where exactly are you connecting this ground?
Mark
1/14/2007 3:05:27 PMMark
::: Hello, I am on my first vintage radio and have hit a wall. It is a Pacific Radio model 6322. Someone had removed the electrolytic capacitors and not replaced them. All other capacitors I have replaced with new ones but I cannot figure out where to wire in the electrolytics. I see where the positive goes to the 25Z5 tube, and neg. goes on either side of the choke. The problem is I do not understand what the choke is. Is it the thing that looks like a transformer on top of the chassis, or is it the one on the speaker? Or have I missed it completely? Please forgive my ignorance but I think I have a new hobby.
:::Thank you for any help-P.J.
::Hi P.J.
:: It could very well be mounted on top of the chassis and resemble a transformer, look for a transformer that has only 2 leads in the area of where the electrolytics were that should be the choke your looking for, the Transformer for the speaker usually is mounted on the speaker body frame, which contains the Field Winding and matching transformer, hope this helps.
::Mark
:
:Mark,
:I think you got me on the right track. It now receives on strong stations but can only hear it on full volume. It also kicks out a braker if I connect a ground. I guess I have some more work ahead. Thanks for the help.
:P.J.
:
:
::Hi P.J.
As far as the low volume level, check the 1 Meg Ohm resistor off one side of the volume control for being out of tolerance, and the .0005uf capacitor could be leaky, try replacing it, let me know if this helps.
Mark
1/14/2007 3:42:09 PMplanigan
:::: Hello, I am on my first vintage radio and have hit a wall. It is a Pacific Radio model 6322. Someone had removed the electrolytic capacitors and not replaced them. All other capacitors I have replaced with new ones but I cannot figure out where to wire in the electrolytics. I see where the positive goes to the 25Z5 tube, and neg. goes on either side of the choke. The problem is I do not understand what the choke is. Is it the thing that looks like a transformer on top of the chassis, or is it the one on the speaker? Or have I missed it completely? Please forgive my ignorance but I think I have a new hobby.
::::Thank you for any help-P.J.
:::Hi P.J.
::: It could very well be mounted on top of the chassis and resemble a transformer, look for a transformer that has only 2 leads in the area of where the electrolytics were that should be the choke your looking for, the Transformer for the speaker usually is mounted on the speaker body frame, which contains the Field Winding and matching transformer, hope this helps.
:::Mark
::
::Mark,
::I think you got me on the right track. It now receives on strong stations but can only hear it on full volume. It also kicks out a braker if I connect a ground. I guess I have some more work ahead. Thanks for the help.
::P.J.
::
::
:::Hi P.J.
: As far as the low volume level, check the 1 Meg Ohm resistor off one side of the volume control for being out of tolerance, and the .0005uf capacitor could be leaky, try replacing it, let me know if this helps.
:Mark

PJ, the reason you are blowing the breaker sometimes when you go to ground the set is that your chassis is attached to one side of the AC (power) line. Without a polarized plug on the set at times you have a live chassis and other times you have a negative chassis, depending on how the two prongs are inserted in the outlet. Suggest you mark the plug and always make sure the chassis prong goes to ground (if outlets wired correctly thats the left slot facing the outlet on the three prong outlets). On the older outlets it should be the same but the fixture could be wired correctly but installed upside down since there is no third prong to orient it correctly. On those outlets determine the ground side with a voltmeter and mark it for future use. Remember that chassis can be live 120VAC if you don't observe the grounding proceedure. PL



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