Crosley 10-136e radio

1/9/2007 6:01:52 PMAlex

Hi
I have a crosley 10-136e I plugged it in and a tube cracked but still lit up. Also i need knobs and the pointer for it any one have them. I am going replace the caps will that do it? I am lost Thanks

1/9/2007 7:14:21 PMDoug Criner

This is a typical post-war, All-American 5 set: http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/172/M0003172.pdf Good set to start on, but even it requires a little experience first.

What cracked, the glass? Which tube?

What's called for is systematic troubleshooting. Check the various voltages shown on the schematic info.

Will recapping "do it"? Probably not, in my opinion. And if this, as I sense, is your first radio to work on, it's much more likely that you'll introduce a wiring error in the process of recapping, and then you'll have that problem plus the original one to solve.

Replace the tube and start troubleshooting, not throwing parts at it. Also, best to get some books and read them.

:Hi
:I have a crosley 10-136e I plugged it in and a tube cracked but still lit up. Also i need knobs and the pointer for it any one have them. I am going replace the caps will that do it? I am lost Thanks

1/9/2007 7:20:26 PMDoug Criner

Alex, from looking at your recent posts, it seems like you are diving into several different radio projects simultaneously with limited or no prior experience.

I think you need to slow down, hit the books, and take one step at a time. I suspect this is not what you want to hear, but I hope you will listen anyway.

There are plenty of people here that will help you, but you need to slow down and study.

1/9/2007 8:34:31 PMAlex

Thanks A guy told me that and he told me to get a variac and i am only 11 years old and yes you are right.
Thanks
:Alex, from looking at your recent posts, it seems like you are diving into several different radio projects simultaneously with limited or no prior experience.
:
:I think you need to slow down, hit the books, and take one step at a time. I suspect this is not what you want to hear, but I hope you will listen anyway.
:
:There are plenty of people here that will help you, but you need to slow down and study.

1/10/2007 10:21:51 AMBill VA

Alex,
I believe you should put the set aside until you get the missing parts or another parts radio. In the past I would electronically fix a radio that needed some parts and hope to get them. Well depending on the radio one might wait a long time. I go along with what Doug is telling you too. I'm sure you have some adult supervision? One with some knowledge about electricity. I know I did some things when very young around your age and got shocked pretty bad. And when very much older I did some stupid things and that's after having some real good long time extensive training and experience. You can't get careless with these radios. I believe in book learning. You could start with a working radio, say a late 40's or eary 50's and do some controlled trouble injection. You do need the oversight of a trained person.

Bill VA

Thanks A guy told me that and he told me to get a variac and i am only 11 years old and yes you are right.
:Thanks
::Alex, from looking at your recent posts, it seems like you are diving into several different radio projects simultaneously with limited or no prior experience.
::
::I think you need to slow down, hit the books, and take one step at a time. I suspect this is not what you want to hear, but I hope you will listen anyway.
::
::There are plenty of people here that will help you, but you need to slow down and study.

1/10/2007 10:36:43 AMRadiodoc

Alex,

There is a bit of good reading on this site about how to signal trace a radio at:

http://www.nostalgiaair.org/References/Articles/post/index.htm

Radiodoc

:Alex,
:I believe you should put the set aside until you get the missing parts or another parts radio. In the past I would electronically fix a radio that needed some parts and hope to get them. Well depending on the radio one might wait a long time. I go along with what Doug is telling you too. I'm sure you have some adult supervision? One with some knowledge about electricity. I know I did some things when very young around your age and got shocked pretty bad. And when very much older I did some stupid things and that's after having some real good long time extensive training and experience. You can't get careless with these radios. I believe in book learning. You could start with a working radio, say a late 40's or eary 50's and do some controlled trouble injection. You do need the oversight of a trained person.
:
:Bill VA
:
:Thanks A guy told me that and he told me to get a variac and i am only 11 years old and yes you are right.
::Thanks
:::Alex, from looking at your recent posts, it seems like you are diving into several different radio projects simultaneously with limited or no prior experience.
:::
:::I think you need to slow down, hit the books, and take one step at a time. I suspect this is not what you want to hear, but I hope you will listen anyway.
:::
:::There are plenty of people here that will help you, but you need to slow down and study.

1/10/2007 3:04:22 PMalex

Thabks i will read up on this stuff
:
:There is a bit of good reading on this site about how to signal trace a radio at:
:
:http://www.nostalgiaair.org/References/Articles/post/index.htm
:
:Radiodoc
:
:
::Alex,
::I believe you should put the set aside until you get the missing parts or another parts radio. In the past I would electronically fix a radio that needed some parts and hope to get them. Well depending on the radio one might wait a long time. I go along with what Doug is telling you too. I'm sure you have some adult supervision? One with some knowledge about electricity. I know I did some things when very young around your age and got shocked pretty bad. And when very much older I did some stupid things and that's after having some real good long time extensive training and experience. You can't get careless with these radios. I believe in book learning. You could start with a working radio, say a late 40's or eary 50's and do some controlled trouble injection. You do need the oversight of a trained person.
::
::Bill VA
::
::Thanks A guy told me that and he told me to get a variac and i am only 11 years old and yes you are right.
:::Thanks
::::Alex, from looking at your recent posts, it seems like you are diving into several different radio projects simultaneously with limited or no prior experience.
::::
::::I think you need to slow down, hit the books, and take one step at a time. I suspect this is not what you want to hear, but I hope you will listen anyway.
::::
::::There are plenty of people here that will help you, but you need to slow down and study.

1/10/2007 3:29:49 PMAlex

hi I have just found a book on cd for trouble shooting in your opioin do think it would be good to get or do you have any books in mind for a beginer for a person like me? Thanks for all your help
:Alex, from looking at your recent posts, it seems like you are diving into several different radio projects simultaneously with limited or no prior experience.
:
:I think you need to slow down, hit the books, and take one step at a time. I suspect this is not what you want to hear, but I hope you will listen anyway.
:
:There are plenty of people here that will help you, but you need to slow down and study.

1/10/2007 5:21:39 PMDoug Criner

Alex, I have an extra copy of the book "The All-American Five Radio," by Richard McWhorter. E-mail me your address, and I'll mail it to you, free.

It takes you step by step how an AC/DC radio (no power transformer) works. Before you buy a troubleshooting guide, you need to understand the theory. The book I'll send you has a troubleshooting section at the end, after the theory chapters.

An AC/DC radio has lower voltages that transformer-type radios. But if you want to work on tube-type radios safely, I'd recommend an isolation transformer before a variac. (I say "safely," but even with an isolation transformer, you can get seriously shocked.)

When I was your age, I worked on tube-type radios. But back then, I didn't have the option of working on digital logic circuits, which are fun and run on only 5V. Much safer!

:hi I have just found a book on cd for trouble shooting in your opioin do think it would be good to get or do you have any books in mind for a beginer for a person like me? Thanks for all your help
::Alex, from looking at your recent posts, it seems like you are diving into several different radio projects simultaneously with limited or no prior experience.
::
::I think you need to slow down, hit the books, and take one step at a time. I suspect this is not what you want to hear, but I hope you will listen anyway.
::
::There are plenty of people here that will help you, but you need to slow down and study.

1/10/2007 5:35:45 PMDoug Criner

Alex, Bill's suggestion to find an experienced adult to help you is very good.

Here's a little story to maybe give you a healthy fear of the high voltages in tube-type radios.

A couple of years ago, I got careless and took a jolt of 400V DC from a radio that I was working on. It made me physically ill, and I had to go lie down to recover.

Your body is smaller than mine, so...think about it.

:Alex, I have an extra copy of the book "The All-American Five Radio," by Richard McWhorter. E-mail me your address, and I'll mail it to you, free.
:
:It takes you step by step how an AC/DC radio (no power transformer) works. Before you buy a troubleshooting guide, you need to understand the theory. The book I'll send you has a troubleshooting section at the end, after the theory chapters.
:
:An AC/DC radio has lower voltages that transformer-type radios. But if you want to work on tube-type radios safely, I'd recommend an isolation transformer before a variac. (I say "safely," but even with an isolation transformer, you can get seriously shocked.)
:
:When I was your age, I worked on tube-type radios. But back then, I didn't have the option of working on digital logic circuits, which are fun and run on only 5V. Much safer!
:
:
::hi I have just found a book on cd for trouble shooting in your opioin do think it would be good to get or do you have any books in mind for a beginer for a person like me? Thanks for all your help
:::Alex, from looking at your recent posts, it seems like you are diving into several different radio projects simultaneously with limited or no prior experience.
:::
:::I think you need to slow down, hit the books, and take one step at a time. I suspect this is not what you want to hear, but I hope you will listen anyway.
:::
:::There are plenty of people here that will help you, but you need to slow down and study.

1/10/2007 8:04:44 PMAlex

hi
My adress is
Alex Carr
551 boston rd.
sutton ma,01590
I can`t thank you enough for that that is very nice of you.
:Alex, I have an extra copy of the book "The All-American Five Radio," by Richard McWhorter. E-mail me your address, and I'll mail it to you, free.
:
:It takes you step by step how an AC/DC radio (no power transformer) works. Before you buy a troubleshooting guide, you need to understand the theory. The book I'll send you has a troubleshooting section at the end, after the theory chapters.
:
:An AC/DC radio has lower voltages that transformer-type radios. But if you want to work on tube-type radios safely, I'd recommend an isolation transformer before a variac. (I say "safely," but even with an isolation transformer, you can get seriously shocked.)
:
:When I was your age, I worked on tube-type radios. But back then, I didn't have the option of working on digital logic circuits, which are fun and run on only 5V. Much safer!
:
:
::hi I have just found a book on cd for trouble shooting in your opioin do think it would be good to get or do you have any books in mind for a beginer for a person like me? Thanks for all your help
:::Alex, from looking at your recent posts, it seems like you are diving into several different radio projects simultaneously with limited or no prior experience.
:::
:::I think you need to slow down, hit the books, and take one step at a time. I suspect this is not what you want to hear, but I hope you will listen anyway.
:::
:::There are plenty of people here that will help you, but you need to slow down and study.

1/11/2007 8:27:55 PMmmakazoo

Alex: Everyone has given you good advice. I have the All American Five book and found it very helpful. Get as many books as you can on radio repair and read them all. I have noticed that each book I read gives a little bit different explanation of things, so it helps me understand things better. Do be carefull. I use a GFCI outlet for safety, but even then there is no guarantee. Use just one hand when working on a radio that is plugged in. Have fun learning, it's a great hobby! Mark from Kalamazoo

:hi
:My adress is
:Alex Carr
:551 boston rd.
:sutton ma,01590
:I can`t thank you enough for that that is very nice of you.
::Alex, I have an extra copy of the book "The All-American Five Radio," by Richard McWhorter. E-mail me your address, and I'll mail it to you, free.
::
::It takes you step by step how an AC/DC radio (no power transformer) works. Before you buy a troubleshooting guide, you need to understand the theory. The book I'll send you has a troubleshooting section at the end, after the theory chapters.
::
::An AC/DC radio has lower voltages that transformer-type radios. But if you want to work on tube-type radios safely, I'd recommend an isolation transformer before a variac. (I say "safely," but even with an isolation transformer, you can get seriously shocked.)
::
::When I was your age, I worked on tube-type radios. But back then, I didn't have the option of working on digital logic circuits, which are fun and run on only 5V. Much safer!
::
::
:::hi I have just found a book on cd for trouble shooting in your opioin do think it would be good to get or do you have any books in mind for a beginer for a person like me? Thanks for all your help
::::Alex, from looking at your recent posts, it seems like you are diving into several different radio projects simultaneously with limited or no prior experience.
::::
::::I think you need to slow down, hit the books, and take one step at a time. I suspect this is not what you want to hear, but I hope you will listen anyway.
::::
::::There are plenty of people here that will help you, but you need to slow down and study.

1/11/2007 8:57:33 PMplanigan

Alex: Please heed the advise that you are being given on here. Remember when you plug in a set that radio chassis represents 120V Alternating Current that is more than capable of killing you. The members on this forum are of mixed emotions about you. On the one hand they are tickled pink that you are taking an interest in these old sets while on the other, they are fearful that you may injure (or worse) yourself.
Having said that and hoping that you take the advise of the members, I'm sure you will be welcome here. Patrick Lanigan

1/18/2007 3:11:22 PMalex

Hi i recived the bookn thank you so much i think yhat will help me a lot.
Thanks