Home  Resources  References  Tubes  Forums  Links  Support 
Ford 5BF Car Radio
6/21/2006 4:00:31 PMDave Froehlich
Hello All,
I cannot find my copy of the SAMS photofact for this set. All I need to know is what the rectifier tube is. It was inside but it fell out and I cannot find it. I think it was a 6X4. The cover with the tube layout is missing. So please verify that that is the correct rectifier tube. A tube layout would be helpful as well.
I just replaced all the paper and filter capacitors. So I am ready to test it out.

Thanks,

Dave

5=1955
B=Bendix (made by Bendix)
F=Ford (for Ford Cars)

6/21/2006 4:05:22 PMNorm Leal
Hi Dave

If it is a 6 volt car radio with 7 pin rectifier tube will be 6X4.

Norm

:Hello All,
: I cannot find my copy of the SAMS photofact for this set. All I need to know is what the rectifier tube is. It was inside but it fell out and I cannot find it. I think it was a 6X4. The cover with the tube layout is missing. So please verify that that is the correct rectifier tube. A tube layout would be helpful as well.
: I just replaced all the paper and filter capacitors. So I am ready to test it out.
:
:Thanks,
:
:Dave
:
:5=1955
:B=Bendix (made by Bendix)
:F=Ford (for Ford Cars)
:

6/21/2006 6:52:20 PMDave Froehlich
Norm,
Ok, now that I'm sure that that's what it is. I need to make sure I'm putting it in the correct place. I think it is in the correct place.
So I'm going to try it out.

Thanks,

Dave

:Hi Dave
:
: If it is a 6 volt car radio with 7 pin rectifier tube will be 6X4.
:
:Norm
:
::Hello All,
:: I cannot find my copy of the SAMS photofact for this set. All I need to know is what the rectifier tube is. It was inside but it fell out and I cannot find it. I think it was a 6X4. The cover with the tube layout is missing. So please verify that that is the correct rectifier tube. A tube layout would be helpful as well.
:: I just replaced all the paper and filter capacitors. So I am ready to test it out.
::
::Thanks,
::
::Dave
::
::5=1955
::B=Bendix (made by Bendix)
::F=Ford (for Ford Cars)
::

6/21/2006 7:31:42 PMDave Froehlich
Norm,
The converter tube was dead. Now it's weak on weak stations. Only the strongest stations sound good. The other tubes are probably weak as well.


Thanks,

Dave
:Norm,
: Ok, now that I'm sure that that's what it is. I need to make sure I'm putting it in the correct place. I think it is in the correct place.
: So I'm going to try it out.
:
:Thanks,
:
:Dave
:
::Hi Dave
::
:: If it is a 6 volt car radio with 7 pin rectifier tube will be 6X4.
::
::Norm
::
:::Hello All,
::: I cannot find my copy of the SAMS photofact for this set. All I need to know is what the rectifier tube is. It was inside but it fell out and I cannot find it. I think it was a 6X4. The cover with the tube layout is missing. So please verify that that is the correct rectifier tube. A tube layout would be helpful as well.
::: I just replaced all the paper and filter capacitors. So I am ready to test it out.
:::
:::Thanks,
:::
:::Dave
:::
:::5=1955
:::B=Bendix (made by Bendix)
:::F=Ford (for Ford Cars)
:::

6/21/2006 8:23:26 PMDave Froehlich
Norm,
I suspect problems with the AVC circuit but without the schematic, I have no idea which connections it is.
It is very quiet on weak distant stations and very loud on powerful local stations. But it does seem to be receiving them.

Thanks,

Dave
:Hi Dave
:
: If it is a 6 volt car radio with 7 pin rectifier tube will be 6X4.
:
:Norm
:
::Hello All,
:: I cannot find my copy of the SAMS photofact for this set. All I need to know is what the rectifier tube is. It was inside but it fell out and I cannot find it. I think it was a 6X4. The cover with the tube layout is missing. So please verify that that is the correct rectifier tube. A tube layout would be helpful as well.
:: I just replaced all the paper and filter capacitors. So I am ready to test it out.
::
::Thanks,
::
::Dave
::
::5=1955
::B=Bendix (made by Bendix)
::F=Ford (for Ford Cars)
::

6/22/2006 1:11:52 AMMAG
Hi Dave,

Norm is correct (as usual) on the 6X4. This radio uses I.F. transformers with silvered mica sheets in the base, prone to silver migration and faulty connections between the terminal tabs and the mica sheets. The 2nd. I.F.(closest to the 6AV6 tube) is suspect for AVC or intermittent volume problems.

Hope that the tone control is good in your radio--a Bendix exclusive!

I have the schematic for this set. If you want to post your email or mailing address, I'll send you a copy.

Meade

:Norm,
: I suspect problems with the AVC circuit but without the schematic, I have no idea which connections it is.
: It is very quiet on weak distant stations and very loud on powerful local stations. But it does seem to be receiving them.
:
:Thanks,
:
:Dave
::Hi Dave
::
:: If it is a 6 volt car radio with 7 pin rectifier tube will be 6X4.
::
::Norm
::
:::Hello All,
::: I cannot find my copy of the SAMS photofact for this set. All I need to know is what the rectifier tube is. It was inside but it fell out and I cannot find it. I think it was a 6X4. The cover with the tube layout is missing. So please verify that that is the correct rectifier tube. A tube layout would be helpful as well.
::: I just replaced all the paper and filter capacitors. So I am ready to test it out.
:::
:::Thanks,
:::
:::Dave
:::
:::5=1955
:::B=Bendix (made by Bendix)
:::F=Ford (for Ford Cars)
:::

6/22/2006 10:52:57 AMDave Froehlich
Mag,
I have the schematic but have somehow misplaced it. So I do need a copy of it. I don't know why my e-mail address isn't sent when I type it into the form. It's

dave2@borg.com

The tone control works, however it seems to be very loose. Thanks for all that information about the AVC and the silvered mica. If this is the case, this was a common problem.

Thanks,

Dave
:Hi Dave,
:
:Norm is correct (as usual) on the 6X4. This radio uses I.F. transformers with silvered mica sheets in the base, prone to silver migration and faulty connections between the terminal tabs and the mica sheets. The 2nd. I.F.(closest to the 6AV6 tube) is suspect for AVC or intermittent volume problems.
:
:Hope that the tone control is good in your radio--a Bendix exclusive!
:
:I have the schematic for this set. If you want to post your email or mailing address, I'll send you a copy.
:
:Meade
:
:
:
::Norm,
:: I suspect problems with the AVC circuit but without the schematic, I have no idea which connections it is.
:: It is very quiet on weak distant stations and very loud on powerful local stations. But it does seem to be receiving them.
::
::Thanks,
::
::Dave
:::Hi Dave
:::
::: If it is a 6 volt car radio with 7 pin rectifier tube will be 6X4.
:::
:::Norm
:::
::::Hello All,
:::: I cannot find my copy of the SAMS photofact for this set. All I need to know is what the rectifier tube is. It was inside but it fell out and I cannot find it. I think it was a 6X4. The cover with the tube layout is missing. So please verify that that is the correct rectifier tube. A tube layout would be helpful as well.
:::: I just replaced all the paper and filter capacitors. So I am ready to test it out.
::::
::::Thanks,
::::
::::Dave
::::
::::5=1955
::::B=Bendix (made by Bendix)
::::F=Ford (for Ford Cars)
::::

6/22/2006 10:55:07 AMNorm Leal
Hi

To get an email address click on the persons name where it says Posted by, above.

Norm

:Mag,
: I have the schematic but have somehow misplaced it. So I do need a copy of it. I don't know why my e-mail address isn't sent when I type it into the form. It's
:
:dave2@borg.com
:
: The tone control works, however it seems to be very loose. Thanks for all that information about the AVC and the silvered mica. If this is the case, this was a common problem.
:
:Thanks,
:
:Dave
::Hi Dave,
::
::Norm is correct (as usual) on the 6X4. This radio uses I.F. transformers with silvered mica sheets in the base, prone to silver migration and faulty connections between the terminal tabs and the mica sheets. The 2nd. I.F.(closest to the 6AV6 tube) is suspect for AVC or intermittent volume problems.
::
::Hope that the tone control is good in your radio--a Bendix exclusive!
::
::I have the schematic for this set. If you want to post your email or mailing address, I'll send you a copy.
::
::Meade
::
::
::
:::Norm,
::: I suspect problems with the AVC circuit but without the schematic, I have no idea which connections it is.
::: It is very quiet on weak distant stations and very loud on powerful local stations. But it does seem to be receiving them.
:::
:::Thanks,
:::
:::Dave
::::Hi Dave
::::
:::: If it is a 6 volt car radio with 7 pin rectifier tube will be 6X4.
::::
::::Norm
::::
:::::Hello All,
::::: I cannot find my copy of the SAMS photofact for this set. All I need to know is what the rectifier tube is. It was inside but it fell out and I cannot find it. I think it was a 6X4. The cover with the tube layout is missing. So please verify that that is the correct rectifier tube. A tube layout would be helpful as well.
::::: I just replaced all the paper and filter capacitors. So I am ready to test it out.
:::::
:::::Thanks,
:::::
:::::Dave
:::::
:::::5=1955
:::::B=Bendix (made by Bendix)
:::::F=Ford (for Ford Cars)
:::::

6/22/2006 1:19:46 PMThomas Dermody
An 0Z4 will work as well. 0Z4 has the same basing connections as a 6X4, but without the filament. If you want supreme performance without the gas rectifier or the excess filament consumption, obtain a dud 0Z4. Remove shell and remove innards. Purchase two 600 volt diodes from Radio shack and install. Re-install shell and plug into radio. You'll have more power than either tube could produce, and without the excess filament consumption.

T.

6/22/2006 1:22:24 PMThomas Dermody
My bad. I'm thinking 6X5. An 0Z4 can't be put in place of a 6X4...not even the same base.

T.

6/23/2006 4:29:28 PMDave Froehlich
Thomas,
Maybe 0A2, or 0B2 or 0C2? The 6X4 works fine though. I am having the typical AVC problem these radios had. I will take the time to find the problem. This is an interesting problem.

Thanks,

Dave
:My bad. I'm thinking 6X5. An 0Z4 can't be put in place of a 6X4...not even the same base.
:
:T.

6/24/2006 12:43:24 AMThomas Dermody
Well, 0A2, 0B2, and 0C2 don't have two anodes, and they don't have a filamentary cathode, so they can't do full wave rectification, and I don't think that they can act like a diode due to the lack of a glowing cathode (the 0Z4 has a filament that starts to glow after emission commences). Who knows, though. Never tried it. Just know that I can put an 0Z4 in place of the 6X5 in some car radios, and that a solid state arrangement works wonders.

T.



© 1989-2025, Nostalgia Air