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Rectifier and Continuity Problem
4/5/2000 10:22:35 AMJim Moore
I have a Motorola model 67XM, chassis HS-64 and the selenium rectifier is bad. Where can I purchase one or I understand that it can be replaced with a silicon diode. How do I determine what diode to use? Also I have a continuity problem I can’t figure out. From the #5 pin on the 19T8 to the #4 pin on the 50B5 is fine but if I check from #5 19T8 to #3 on 50B5 no continuity. Continuity between #4 and #3 pins on 50B5 checks out fine, I’m stumped! And last how do I detemine the wattage of the resistors on this set?

Many Thanks, Jim

4/5/2000 2:16:41 PMNorm Leal
Hi Jim

It's best to use a silicon diode such as 1N4004 as a replacement for the selenium rectifier. The banded end on the silicon diode connects to the + end on the selenium. You may want to install a low value resistor in series with the silicon diode to reduce voltage.

Check continuity of your tube filaments, removed from the radio. On 7 pin tubes it's pins #3 and #4. On 9 pin tubes pins #4 and #5.

What are you using for continuity testing? I don't see a reason for the results but you might try reversing leads. If there is a semiconductor in the circuit, such as selenium rectifier, it will only test in one direction.

Resistors in early radios were usually 1/2 watt. Large ones may be 1 or 2 watts and wire wound 5 or 10 watts.

Norm


: I have a Motorola model 67XM, chassis HS-64 and the selenium rectifier is bad. Where can I purchase one or I understand that it can be replaced with a silicon diode. How do I determine what diode to use? Also I have a continuity problem I can’t figure out. From the #5 pin on the 19T8 to the #4 pin on the 50B5 is fine but if I check from #5 19T8 to #3 on 50B5 no continuity. Continuity between #4 and #3 pins on 50B5 checks out fine, I’m stumped! And last how do I detemine the wattage of the resistors on this set?

: Many Thanks, Jim

4/5/2000 11:49:43 PMJim Moore
Hi Norm,
I am useing a Fluke 26III multimeter. I checked myself again after your message and I have the same results.The filaments are all fine. I have one probe on the #5 pin of the 19T8 and I am going in sequence from pin to pin on the filament circuit.

Jim

: Hi Jim

: It's best to use a silicon diode such as 1N4004 as a replacement for the selenium rectifier. The banded end on the silicon diode connects to the + end on the selenium. You may want to install a low value resistor in series with the silicon diode to reduce voltage.

: Check continuity of your tube filaments, removed from the radio. On 7 pin tubes it's pins #3 and #4. On 9 pin tubes pins #4 and #5.

: What are you using for continuity testing? I don't see a reason for the results but you might try reversing leads. If there is a semiconductor in the circuit, such as selenium rectifier, it will only test in one direction.

: Resistors in early radios were usually 1/2 watt. Large ones may be 1 or 2 watts and wire wound 5 or 10 watts.

: Norm

:

: : I have a Motorola model 67XM, chassis HS-64 and the selenium rectifier is bad. Where can I purchase one or I understand that it can be replaced with a silicon diode. How do I determine what diode to use? Also I have a continuity problem I can’t figure out. From the #5 pin on the 19T8 to the #4 pin on the 50B5 is fine but if I check from #5 19T8 to #3 on 50B5 no continuity. Continuity between #4 and #3 pins on 50B5 checks out fine, I’m stumped! And last how do I detemine the wattage of the resistors on this set?

: : Many Thanks, Jim


4/5/2000 11:57:51 PMNorm Leal
Hi Jim

What is the actual resistance in ohms? If the tube filaments are good and wiring isn't open there should be a reading.

Some meters have a contuinuity check using a tone. Don't use this as it will have a cutoff point. My Fluke cuts off around 400 ohms. Below this point there is a tone, above 400 ohms, nothing.

Norm


: Hi Norm,
: I am useing a Fluke 26III multimeter. I checked myself again after your message and I have the same results.The filaments are all fine. I have one probe on the #5 pin of the 19T8 and I am going in sequence from pin to pin on the filament circuit.

: Jim

: : Hi Jim


: : It's best to use a silicon diode such as 1N4004 as a replacement for the selenium rectifier. The banded end on the silicon diode connects to the + end on the selenium. You may want to install a low value resistor in series with the silicon diode to reduce voltage.


: : Check continuity of your tube filaments, removed from the radio. On 7 pin tubes it's pins #3 and #4. On 9 pin tubes pins #4 and #5.


: : What are you using for continuity testing? I don't see a reason for the results but you might try reversing leads. If there is a semiconductor in the circuit, such as selenium rectifier, it will only test in one direction.


: : Resistors in early radios were usually 1/2 watt. Large ones may be 1 or 2 watts and wire wound 5 or 10 watts.


: : Norm


: :

: : : I have a Motorola model 67XM, chassis HS-64 and the selenium rectifier is bad. Where can I purchase one or I understand that it can be replaced with a silicon diode. How do I determine what diode to use? Also I have a continuity problem I can’t figure out. From the #5 pin on the 19T8 to the #4 pin on the 50B5 is fine but if I check from #5 19T8 to #3 on 50B5 no continuity. Continuity between #4 and #3 pins on 50B5 checks out fine, I’m stumped! And last how do I detemine the wattage of the resistors on this set?


: : : Many Thanks, Jim

4/7/2000 8:15:48 PMJim Moore
: Hi Jim

: What is the actual resistance in ohms? If the tube filaments are good and wiring isn't open there should be a reading.

: Some meters have a contuinuity check using a tone. Don't use this as it will have a cutoff point. My Fluke cuts off around 400 ohms. Below this point there is a tone, above 400 ohms, nothing.

: Norm

:
: : Hi Norm,
: : I am useing a Fluke 26III multimeter. I checked myself again after your message and I have the same results.The filaments are all fine. I have one probe on the #5 pin of the 19T8 and I am going in sequence from pin to pin on the filament circuit.

: : Jim

: : : Hi Jim

:
: : : It's best to use a silicon diode such as 1N4004 as a replacement for the selenium rectifier. The banded end on the silicon diode connects to the + end on the selenium. You may want to install a low value resistor in series with the silicon diode to reduce voltage.

:
: : : Check continuity of your tube filaments, removed from the radio. On 7 pin tubes it's pins #3 and #4. On 9 pin tubes pins #4 and #5.

:
: : : What are you using for continuity testing? I don't see a reason for the results but you might try reversing leads. If there is a semiconductor in the circuit, such as selenium rectifier, it will only test in one direction.

:
: : : Resistors in early radios were usually 1/2 watt. Large ones may be 1 or 2 watts and wire wound 5 or 10 watts.

:
: : : Norm

:
: : :

: : : : I have a Motorola model 67XM, chassis HS-64 and the selenium rectifier is bad. Where can I purchase one or I understand that it can be replaced with a silicon diode. How do I determine what diode to use? Also I have a continuity problem I can’t figure out. From the #5 pin on the 19T8 to the #4 pin on the 50B5 is fine but if I check from #5 19T8 to #3 on 50B5 no continuity. Continuity between #4 and #3 pins on 50B5 checks out fine, I’m stumped! And last how do I detemine the wattage of the resistors on this set?

:
: : : : Many Thanks, Jim

4/7/2000 8:16:56 PMJim Moore
Hi Norm,
Excuse a novice beginner; I had the ohmmeter on the beep mode. I would like to thank you and other contributors for your help for beginners. I have learned a lot from Nostalgia Air!!!!
I replaced the selenium rectifier with the 1N4004 diode like you said. Replaced a 68-ohm resister and the electrolytic capacitors and the radio plays great. You suggested that I install a low value resister in series with the diode to reduce voltage. Could you explain why and what value?

Again many thanks, Jim


: Hi Jim

: What is the actual resistance in ohms? If the tube filaments are good and wiring isn't open there should be a reading.

: Some meters have a contuinuity check using a tone. Don't use this as it will have a cutoff point. My Fluke cuts off around 400 ohms. Below this point there is a tone, above 400 ohms, nothing.

: Norm

:
: : Hi Norm,
: : I am useing a Fluke 26III multimeter. I checked myself again after your message and I have the same results.The filaments are all fine. I have one probe on the #5 pin of the 19T8 and I am going in sequence from pin to pin on the filament circuit.

: : Jim

: : : Hi Jim

:
: : : It's best to use a silicon diode such as 1N4004 as a replacement for the selenium rectifier. The banded end on the silicon diode connects to the + end on the selenium. You may want to install a low value resistor in series with the silicon diode to reduce voltage.

:
: : : Check continuity of your tube filaments, removed from the radio. On 7 pin tubes it's pins #3 and #4. On 9 pin tubes pins #4 and #5.

:
: : : What are you using for continuity testing? I don't see a reason for the results but you might try reversing leads. If there is a semiconductor in the circuit, such as selenium rectifier, it will only test in one direction.

:
: : : Resistors in early radios were usually 1/2 watt. Large ones may be 1 or 2 watts and wire wound 5 or 10 watts.

:
: : : Norm

:
: : :

: : : : I have a Motorola model 67XM, chassis HS-64 and the selenium rectifier is bad. Where can I purchase one or I understand that it can be replaced with a silicon diode. How do I determine what diode to use? Also I have a continuity problem I can’t figure out. From the #5 pin on the 19T8 to the #4 pin on the 50B5 is fine but if I check from #5 19T8 to #3 on 50B5 no continuity. Continuity between #4 and #3 pins on 50B5 checks out fine, I’m stumped! And last how do I detemine the wattage of the resistors on this set?

:
: : : : Many Thanks, Jim

4/7/2000 9:41:27 PMNorm Leal
Hi Jim

That's great news! A 1N4001 will supply higher voltage than the original selenium rectifier. An added resistor drops some of this voltage and reduces a surge on turn on. With your radio higher voltage isn't a problem and you already have a 68 ohm resistor for protection.

The "beep" mode has a specific resistance where it cuts off. You must have been testing filaments right around this resistance.

Norm

: Hi Norm,
: Excuse a novice beginner; I had the ohmmeter on the beep mode. I would like to thank you and other contributors for your help for beginners. I have learned a lot from Nostalgia Air!!!!
: I replaced the selenium rectifier with the 1N4004 diode like you said. Replaced a 68-ohm resister and the electrolytic capacitors and the radio plays great. You suggested that I install a low value resister in series with the diode to reduce voltage. Could you explain why and what value?

: Again many thanks, Jim

:
: : Hi Jim

: : What is the actual resistance in ohms? If the tube filaments are good and wiring isn't open there should be a reading.

: : Some meters have a contuinuity check using a tone. Don't use this as it will have a cutoff point. My Fluke cuts off around 400 ohms. Below this point there is a tone, above 400 ohms, nothing.

: : Norm

: :
: : : Hi Norm,
: : : I am useing a Fluke 26III multimeter. I checked myself again after your message and I have the same results.The filaments are all fine. I have one probe on the #5 pin of the 19T8 and I am going in sequence from pin to pin on the filament circuit.

: : : Jim

: : : : Hi Jim

: :
: : : : It's best to use a silicon diode such as 1N4004 as a replacement for the selenium rectifier. The banded end on the silicon diode connects to the + end on the selenium. You may want to install a low value resistor in series with the silicon diode to reduce voltage.

: :
: : : : Check continuity of your tube filaments, removed from the radio. On 7 pin tubes it's pins #3 and #4. On 9 pin tubes pins #4 and #5.

: :
: : : : What are you using for continuity testing? I don't see a reason for the results but you might try reversing leads. If there is a semiconductor in the circuit, such as selenium rectifier, it will only test in one direction.

: :
: : : : Resistors in early radios were usually 1/2 watt. Large ones may be 1 or 2 watts and wire wound 5 or 10 watts.

: :
: : : : Norm

: :
: : : :

: : : : : I have a Motorola model 67XM, chassis HS-64 and the selenium rectifier is bad. Where can I purchase one or I understand that it can be replaced with a silicon diode. How do I determine what diode to use? Also I have a continuity problem I can’t figure out. From the #5 pin on the 19T8 to the #4 pin on the 50B5 is fine but if I check from #5 19T8 to #3 on 50B5 no continuity. Continuity between #4 and #3 pins on 50B5 checks out fine, I’m stumped! And last how do I detemine the wattage of the resistors on this set?

: :
: : : : : Many Thanks, Jim



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