Does anyone have an easy answer on how to 'easily' remove components from an auto-insertion roll?
I purchased 800 radial-lead electrolytic capacitors that came taped on a very long roll of punched hole paper. The tape looks like standard paper masking tape that holds the leads on the punched paper roll... but it seems almost impossible to remove. I have to use a razor blade and cut right along each lead and even then I still cannot eaisly pull the leads free of that tape!
Even once extracted ... still some of the tape is still stuck to the leads...Arrrgh!
Has anyone ever dealt with this? What is the secret to removal.

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Geez, that's a new one Peter !! Maybe a little shot of GOO GONE solvent on the area you want to strip of tape ? Labor intensive I know.....but it might work. Or......how about heat ? A hair dryer on high for a few minutes ?

Dennis
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:Does anyone have an easy answer on how to 'easily' remove components from an auto-insertion roll?
:I purchased 800 radial-lead electrolytic capacitors that came taped on a very long roll of punched hole paper. The tape looks like standard paper masking tape that holds the leads on the punched paper roll... but it seems almost impossible to remove. I have to use a razor blade and cut right along each lead and even then I still cannot eaisly pull the leads free of that tape!
:Even once extracted ... still some of the tape is still stuck to the leads...Arrrgh!
:Has anyone ever dealt with this? What is the secret to removal.

Hi Peter

These belts of parts are made to be used with insertion machines. They cut leads & insert parts without removing them from the tape. You can pull parts one at a time but this will leave glue from tape on the leads. If you don't need full lenght leads just cut them out of the belt.

You might find a solvent but be careful it doesn't damage the parts. The hair dryer idea may work to soften goo but will still be a mess.

Norm

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:Geez, that's a new one Peter !! Maybe a little shot of GOO GONE solvent on the area you want to strip of tape ? Labor intensive I know.....but it might work. Or......how about heat ? A hair dryer on high for a few minutes ?
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:Dennis
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::Does anyone have an easy answer on how to 'easily' remove components from an auto-insertion roll?
::I purchased 800 radial-lead electrolytic capacitors that came taped on a very long roll of punched hole paper. The tape looks like standard paper masking tape that holds the leads on the punched paper roll... but it seems almost impossible to remove. I have to use a razor blade and cut right along each lead and even then I still cannot eaisly pull the leads free of that tape!
::Even once extracted ... still some of the tape is still stuck to the leads...Arrrgh!
::Has anyone ever dealt with this? What is the secret to removal.

As a long-time veteran of the industry (Siliconix), let me confirm Norm's answer. "Tape and reel" is now standard industrial packaging. Virtually no one inserts components by hand, and most are going to "surface mount" devices that have no wire leads at all. The components are intended to be cut from the tape and reel "belt." Very seldom do you need the full length of the wire leads for printed circuit board usage. You can probably strip the adhesive from the leads with acetone or "Goof-Off" commercial remover. If I think I need the whole lead length, I just pull the devices out of the tape and clean the leads with some "Scotch-Brite" abrasive pad. I find "T&R" to be a cheap source of surplus resistors and caps and often buy them at our local surplus electronics dealer.
Rich
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:Hi Peter
:
: These belts of parts are made to be used with insertion machines. They cut leads & insert parts without removing them from the tape. You can pull parts one at a time but this will leave glue from tape on the leads. If you don't need full lenght leads just cut them out of the belt.
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: You might find a solvent but be careful it doesn't damage the parts. The hair dryer idea may work to soften goo but will still be a mess.
:
:Norm
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::Geez, that's a new one Peter !! Maybe a little shot of GOO GONE solvent on the area you want to strip of tape ? Labor intensive I know.....but it might work. Or......how about heat ? A hair dryer on high for a few minutes ?
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::Dennis
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:::Does anyone have an easy answer on how to 'easily' remove components from an auto-insertion roll?
:::I purchased 800 radial-lead electrolytic capacitors that came taped on a very long roll of punched hole paper. The tape looks like standard paper masking tape that holds the leads on the punched paper roll... but it seems almost impossible to remove. I have to use a razor blade and cut right along each lead and even then I still cannot eaisly pull the leads free of that tape!
:::Even once extracted ... still some of the tape is still stuck to the leads...Arrrgh!
:::Has anyone ever dealt with this? What is the secret to removal.

Thanks guys...
Yeah ...I know these were "meant" to be cut off by the insertion machine.
But...when I bought these I had no idea they were going to delivered to me on that insertion belt.
My first reaction was.. "so what" I'll just pull 'em off as I need them ...lol

They are nice, small electrolytic caps 22uf @ 25vdc with radial leads
( I use them as cathode-bypass)

They were very nicely priced.

All 800 were only $24.00 including shipping...can you believe that?
That's only 3 cents each!

The full leads are about 1-1/2 inch which is okay for radio work... but the part above the tape is only about 3/8 inch...so I don't want to cut them there as then it would be too short for reasonable use here... So a razor blade is all I can work with ( I guess)... and that goo-gone or whatever may clean up the leads after I get them out.. now I just use the razor up and down the leads..
It's NOT that the tape is gooey though... no... it's just so darned tough as it stays stuck with tiny tads of tape and it's hard like old dried up tape... but very tough!
I guess ....as infrequently as I'll need these things I'll just have to struggle a bit to free them.
Thank you all.

Once you get them separated from the belt could you possibly just use a wire stripper to "shave" the tape tads off from the leads ?.....just a thought....

Dennis
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:Thanks guys...
: Yeah ...I know these were "meant" to be cut off by the insertion machine.
:But...when I bought these I had no idea they were going to delivered to me on that insertion belt.
:My first reaction was.. "so what" I'll just pull 'em off as I need them ...lol
:
:They are nice, small electrolytic caps 22uf @ 25vdc with radial leads
: ( I use them as cathode-bypass)
:
:They were very nicely priced.
:
:All 800 were only $24.00 including shipping...can you believe that?
:That's only 3 cents each!
:
:The full leads are about 1-1/2 inch which is okay for radio work... but the part above the tape is only about 3/8 inch...so I don't want to cut them there as then it would be too short for reasonable use here... So a razor blade is all I can work with ( I guess)... and that goo-gone or whatever may clean up the leads after I get them out.. now I just use the razor up and down the leads..
:It's NOT that the tape is gooey though... no... it's just so darned tough as it stays stuck with tiny tads of tape and it's hard like old dried up tape... but very tough!
: I guess ....as infrequently as I'll need these things I'll just have to struggle a bit to free them.
:Thank you all.

Hey....just had a thought. I am not familiar with how this conglameration of caps and tape belt looks but I picture in my mind a long double strip of tape with the leads of the caps sandwiched between the two sides. Could you possibly wind them into a nice even coil then suspend just the leads and tape in a solvent such as mineral spirits etc to soften the tape and glue then HOPEFULLY just pull them out of their captive strip of tape ? Naw.......that would never work........too simple..... LOL
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:Once you get them separated from the belt could you possibly just use a wire stripper to "shave" the tape tads off from the leads ?.....just a thought....
:
:Dennis
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::Thanks guys...
:: Yeah ...I know these were "meant" to be cut off by the insertion machine.
::But...when I bought these I had no idea they were going to delivered to me on that insertion belt.
::My first reaction was.. "so what" I'll just pull 'em off as I need them ...lol
::
::They are nice, small electrolytic caps 22uf @ 25vdc with radial leads
:: ( I use them as cathode-bypass)
::
::They were very nicely priced.
::
::All 800 were only $24.00 including shipping...can you believe that?
::That's only 3 cents each!
::
::The full leads are about 1-1/2 inch which is okay for radio work... but the part above the tape is only about 3/8 inch...so I don't want to cut them there as then it would be too short for reasonable use here... So a razor blade is all I can work with ( I guess)... and that goo-gone or whatever may clean up the leads after I get them out.. now I just use the razor up and down the leads..
::It's NOT that the tape is gooey though... no... it's just so darned tough as it stays stuck with tiny tads of tape and it's hard like old dried up tape... but very tough!
:: I guess ....as infrequently as I'll need these things I'll just have to struggle a bit to free them.
::Thank you all.

Hey... I haven't tried all the other ideas from you guys yet ...but I did have a can of mineral spirits sitting right there on the bench so I just tried it... and it "does the trick"
I do have to saturate the tape a bit with it but then they come right out...with a little bit of force lol... but that's it!! thanks.
It pays to have friends like yoooze guyz.

Here's what the tape thing looks like.
http://www.pbpix.com/cap-tape.jpg

Mineral spirits and acetone are definitely the way to go. Try not to get too much on your skin, though. That stuff really dries it out.

Thomas

Hi

I can agree with mineral spirits but be careful of acetone. It will disolve plastic.

Norm
:Mineral spirits and acetone are definitely the way to go. Try not to get too much on your skin, though. That stuff really dries it out.
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:Thomas

Thank you both... sure mineral spirits is probably much safer...
...how does it taste again?

Yeah, I forgot that modern components aren't usually made of bakelite anymore.

T.

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Does one realize that an engineers best friend can be a supply clerk? I have several “ammunition belts” of roll end resistors, stored away in the attic in small 6 in rolls. On a PCB production run thru stuffing the one thing that you don’t want the component auto insertion robotics to encounter is a jam or running out of components, thereby frowning upon reuse of a partial or short roll. The “ends” typically end up relegated to rotting in engineering supply.
I don’t even consider separating units , just a mere pulling of 10 or so units to put in the that resistance values bin. After years of hot attic heat, its just a matter of gripping the 1/4 in tandem masking tape strips, since that brittle adhesive has became a powder and the strips just fly apart .
My electrolytics are definitely relegated to a “70” degree storage environment for longevity. Most I am using for PCB insertion so I just clip the leads short or the suggested hair dryer or the cheapest solvent is the Crown (Lowes)or Klean Strip(Home Depot) brands of common paint thinner if I am needing full lead lengths on a ’38 Packard auto radio.

73’s de Edd

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:Yeah, I forgot that modern components aren't usually made of bakelite anymore.
:
:T.

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