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2/22/2006 3:54:30 PMRick
I have a Montgomery Ward Movie Dial Model 62-408 that I am in the process of restoring. I have replaced the film and some other parts. However, I can't seem to figure out how the Drum Shaft connects to the band switch arm to raise and lower the drum. I have looked at Riders page 8-2, Figure 3, but the picture is so dark I can't tell how they are connected. Any help would be appreciated.
3/5/2006 12:43:11 PMBill Dial
:I have a Montgomery Ward Movie Dial Model 62-408 that I am in the process of restoring. I have replaced the film and some other parts. However, I can't seem to figure out how the Drum Shaft connects to the band switch arm to raise and lower the drum. I have looked at Riders page 8-2, Figure 3, but the picture is so dark I can't tell how they are connected. Any help would be appreciated.
3/5/2006 1:05:22 PMBill
::I have a Montgomery Ward Movie Dial Model 62-408 that I am in the process of restoring. I have replaced the film and some other parts. However, I can't seem to figure out how the Drum Shaft connects to the band switch arm to raise and lower the drum. I have looked at Riders page 8-2, Figure 3, but the picture is so dark I can't tell how they are connected. Any help would be appreciated.
The Band switch has an arm( ref Collar Arm) attached the shaft. On the end of the arm there a fiber link attached and helded in place by a rivit.The link is 1 and 3/8 inch long by 3/8 wide. The other end of the link is attached to the mechanism that raises and lowers the film drum. The shaft attached to the film drum will sometime freeze up .Preventing the mechanism from moving the drum up and down. When turning the band switch this will put pressure on the fiber link causing it to break. I've sometimes found the link completely broken off and missing.
3/5/2006 1:10:58 PMBill
::I have a Montgomery Ward Movie Dial Model 62-408 that I am in the process of restoring. I have replaced the film and some other parts. However, I can't seem to figure out how the Drum Shaft connects to the band switch arm to raise and lower the drum. I have looked at Riders page 8-2, Figure 3, but the picture is so dark I can't tell how they are connected. Any help would be appreciated.
The Band switch has an arm( ref Collar Arm) attached the shaft. On the end of the arm there a fiber link attached and helded in place by a rivit.The link is 1 and 3/8 inch long by 3/8 wide. The other end of the link is attached to the mechanism that raises and lowers the film drum. The shaft attached to the film drum will sometime freeze up .Preventing the mechanism from moving the drum up and down. When turning the band switch this will put pressure on the fiber link causing it to break. I've sometimes found the link completely broken off and missing.
3/13/2006 3:35:57 PMRick
:::I have a Montgomery Ward Movie Dial Model 62-408 that I am in the process of restoring. I have replaced the film and some other parts. However, I can't seem to figure out how the Drum Shaft connects to the band switch arm to raise and lower the drum. I have looked at Riders page 8-2, Figure 3, but the picture is so dark I can't tell how they are connected. Any help would be appreciated.
: The Band switch has an arm( ref Collar Arm) attached the shaft. On the end of the arm there a fiber link attached and helded in place by a rivit.The link is 1 and 3/8 inch long by 3/8 wide. The other end of the link is attached to the mechanism that raises and lowers the film drum. The shaft attached to the film drum will sometime freeze up .Preventing the mechanism from moving the drum up and down. When turning the band switch this will put pressure on the fiber link causing it to break. I've sometimes found the link completely broken off and missing.
3/13/2006 3:36:47 PMRick
:::I have a Montgomery Ward Movie Dial Model 62-408 that I am in the process of restoring. I have replaced the film and some other parts. However, I can't seem to figure out how the Drum Shaft connects to the band switch arm to raise and lower the drum. I have looked at Riders page 8-2, Figure 3, but the picture is so dark I can't tell how they are connected. Any help would be appreciated.
: The Band switch has an arm( ref Collar Arm) attached the shaft. On the end of the arm there a fiber link attached and helded in place by a rivit.The link is 1 and 3/8 inch long by 3/8 wide. The other end of the link is attached to the mechanism that raises and lowers the film drum. The shaft attached to the film drum will sometime freeze up .Preventing the mechanism from moving the drum up and down. When turning the band switch this will put pressure on the fiber link causing it to break. I've sometimes found the link completely broken off and missing.
3/13/2006 3:40:50 PMRick
::::I have a Montgomery Ward Movie Dial Model 62-408 that I am in the process of restoring. I have replaced the film and some other parts. However, I can't seem to figure out how the Drum Shaft connects to the band switch arm to raise and lower the drum. I have looked at Riders page 8-2, Figure 3, but the picture is so dark I can't tell how they are connected. Any help would be appreciated.
:: The Band switch has an arm( ref Collar Arm) attached the shaft. On the end of the arm there a fiber link attached and helded in place by a rivit.The link is 1 and 3/8 inch long by 3/8 wide. The other end of the link is attached to the mechanism that raises and lowers the film drum. The shaft attached to the film drum will sometime freeze up .Preventing the mechanism from moving the drum up and down. When turning the band switch this will put pressure on the fiber link causing it to break. I've sometimes found the link completely broken off and missing.

Bill:

Thanks for the info. I think I understand your note. My fiber link is OK. My problem is that I can't figure out how the other end of the shaft attaches to the film drum shaft. The other end of my shaft has a U shaped piece of metal attached that appears to fit over something that is connected to the film drum shaft.

3/24/2006 2:11:19 PMBill
:::::I have a Montgomery Ward Movie Dial Model 62-408 that I am in the process of restoring. I have replaced the film and some other parts. However, I can't seem to figure out how the Drum Shaft connects to the band switch arm to raise and lower the drum. I have looked at Riders page 8-2, Figure 3, but the picture is so dark I can't tell how they are connected. Any help would be appreciated.
::: The Band switch has an arm( ref Collar Arm) attached the shaft. On the end of the arm there a fiber link attached and helded in place by a rivit.The link is 1 and 3/8 inch long by 3/8 wide. The other end of the link is attached to the mechanism that raises and lowers the film drum. The shaft attached to the film drum will sometime freeze up .Preventing the mechanism from moving the drum up and down. When turning the band switch this will put pressure on the fiber link causing it to break. I've sometimes found the link completely broken off and missing.
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:Bill:
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:Thanks for the info. I think I understand your note. My fiber link is OK. My problem is that I can't figure out how the other end of the shaft attaches to the film drum shaft. The other end of my shaft has a U shaped piece of metal attached that appears to fit over something that is connected to the film drum shaft. Rick. The U shaped piece is attached to the bottem of Film Drum Spindle.When you tune in different radio stations the drum and spindle will turn in the U shaped bracket. The U shape bracket and arm assemble will also move the spindle shaft up and down with the band switch.If the spindle shaft is frozen it will still turn when tuning a station but will not move up and down with the band switch. You might some Kroil brand penetrating oil on the sindle shaft. If that dosnt work then more drastic measures are called for. This mean the spindle shaft will forcefully have to be broken free. I,ve had to build a fixture to support the bottom bearing housing of the spindle shaft while taping with a hammer on top of the shaft.If you dont support the bearing housing, you will be chasing tiny ball bearings flying in every direction. Email me if you need better instructions. I am not that addept at descibing mechanical proceedures.
3/31/2006 2:44:24 PMRick
::::::I have a Montgomery Ward Movie Dial Model 62-408 that I am in the process of restoring. I have replaced the film and some other parts. However, I can't seem to figure out how the Drum Shaft connects to the band switch arm to raise and lower the drum. I have looked at Riders page 8-2, Figure 3, but the picture is so dark I can't tell how they are connected. Any help would be appreciated.
:::: The Band switch has an arm( ref Collar Arm) attached the shaft. On the end of the arm there a fiber link attached and helded in place by a rivit.The link is 1 and 3/8 inch long by 3/8 wide. The other end of the link is attached to the mechanism that raises and lowers the film drum. The shaft attached to the film drum will sometime freeze up .Preventing the mechanism from moving the drum up and down. When turning the band switch this will put pressure on the fiber link causing it to break. I've sometimes found the link completely broken off and missing.
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::Bill:
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::Thanks for the info. I think I understand your note. My fiber link is OK. My problem is that I can't figure out how the other end of the shaft attaches to the film drum shaft. The other end of my shaft has a U shaped piece of metal attached that appears to fit over something that is connected to the film drum shaft. Rick. The U shaped piece is attached to the bottem of Film Drum Spindle.When you tune in different radio stations the drum and spindle will turn in the U shaped bracket. The U shape bracket and arm assemble will also move the spindle shaft up and down with the band switch.If the spindle shaft is frozen it will still turn when tuning a station but will not move up and down with the band switch. You might some Kroil brand penetrating oil on the sindle shaft. If that dosnt work then more drastic measures are called for. This mean the spindle shaft will forcefully have to be broken free. I,ve had to build a fixture to support the bottom bearing housing of the spindle shaft while taping with a hammer on top of the shaft.If you dont support the bearing housing, you will be chasing tiny ball bearings flying in every direction. Email me if you need better instructions. I am not that addept at descibing mechanical proceedures.

Bill: Thanks. I think I figured it out. I looked at the bottom of the shaft for hours and never saw the grove that the U shapped piece fits over. Now I can see it. WOW



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