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Ultra Musicone not working
2/9/2005 10:01:27 PMBill
I have acquired an Ultra Musicone by Crosley, an armature type speaker?

There is no clicking noise when I apply an ohm meter, what should I be looking for? Open coils?

2/10/2005 8:49:23 AMThomas Dermody
Yep. If this speaker is what I think it is...high impedance magnetic, then it has no field coil to energize, and the only think that will cause it not to work is an open voice coil. This should be a rather high resistance, in the region of slightly under 100 ohms to several hundred ohms, perhaps even a thousand. Rewinding is a long job, but it is possible. Finding fine wire for the task is a bit difficult. Try www.tubesandmore.com. First try looking for a break.

T.D.

2/10/2005 11:11:46 AMBill
Is there a gauge I could look about the internet for, it would be enamelled wire I'm looking for?


:Yep. If this speaker is what I think it is...high impedance magnetic, then it has no field coil to energize, and the only think that will cause it not to work is an open voice coil. This should be a rather high resistance, in the region of slightly under 100 ohms to several hundred ohms, perhaps even a thousand. Rewinding is a long job, but it is possible. Finding fine wire for the task is a bit difficult. Try www.tubesandmore.com. First try looking for a break.
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:T.D.

2/10/2005 12:47:24 PMThomas Dermody
I'm not very good with magnetic wire gauges. I just know that it's a small size--large number--like 40 something. You'd have to have a wire gauge guide so that you could properly measure the wire. For now, though, before you worry about new wire, you should focus on trying to find a break in the old wire, which sometimes breaks at the lead-in wires. If the break is obvious, then it is easily repaired. Sometimes, too, you can carefully unwind the old wire onto something else--a large spool on very good bearings. Then you can re-use the wire. Should the insulation (enamel) on the wire flake off a lot, you should use new wire. When removing the old wire, regardless of whether you use it or not, you should count how many turns there are. If you lose count by +/-10 or 20, this is nothing to worry about. There are perhaps a thousand or more turns, maybe less. Just try to be accurate.

T.D.

2/10/2005 12:53:09 PMJohn McPherson
Are you able to measure any DC resistance with a voltmeter? If yes, the magnet may have lost it's magnetic field, they were not as long lived as today's alnico and rare earth magnets.

If open circuit is measured (infinite resistance), you are in the realm of 36 to 39 gauge wire typically. If you have to unwind a couple of turns to reconnect to a solder tab, it will not hurt anything. You might just want to check the original solder connections by reflowing the solder, Anitmony can sometimes be a solder contaminate, and it will crystalize and allow for corrosion to form.

If you do need some, I can let you know where I picked up a few spools reasonably priced.


:Is there a gauge I could look about the internet for, it would be enamelled wire I'm looking for?
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::Yep. If this speaker is what I think it is...high impedance magnetic, then it has no field coil to energize, and the only think that will cause it not to work is an open voice coil. This should be a rather high resistance, in the region of slightly under 100 ohms to several hundred ohms, perhaps even a thousand. Rewinding is a long job, but it is possible. Finding fine wire for the task is a bit difficult. Try www.tubesandmore.com. First try looking for a break.
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::T.D.



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