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Philco 660 output transformer
10/1/2003 10:05:28 AMDave
I'm working on a Philco 660 console chassis for which I have no speaker. For a test run following recapping,
I used a 10W 1.2K resistor in place of the field coil and a junk box transformer and speaker. Works, but sounds terrible. I've been looking for a correct replacement output transformer and have hit my knowledge limit. The 660 uses two 42 output tubes in push-pull configuration. Consulting a tube manual shows me that the plate impedance of a 42 is 10000 ohms. Do I need a xformer that has that impedance on each side of the input center tap or 10000 ohms total? Radio Daze has a decent selection of new xformers but I don't want to get one that won't give the best sound. I will probably get a new 4 ohm speaker to use with this set.
10/1/2003 10:43:48 AMNorm Leal
Hi Dave

You have done a good job investigating.. Push-pull 42's use a 10,000 ohm impedance transformer plate to plate. So that means 10,000 ohm total for the primary.

Norm

:I'm working on a Philco 660 console chassis for which I have no speaker. For a test run following recapping,
:I used a 10W 1.2K resistor in place of the field coil and a junk box transformer and speaker. Works, but sounds terrible. I've been looking for a correct replacement output transformer and have hit my knowledge limit. The 660 uses two 42 output tubes in push-pull configuration. Consulting a tube manual shows me that the plate impedance of a 42 is 10000 ohms. Do I need a xformer that has that impedance on each side of the input center tap or 10000 ohms total? Radio Daze has a decent selection of new xformers but I don't want to get one that won't give the best sound. I will probably get a new 4 ohm speaker to use with this set.

10/1/2003 11:52:27 AMDave
Thanks, Norm for the quick response. I'll order a new xfmr tonight


:Hi Dave
:
: You have done a good job investigating.. Push-pull 42's use a 10,000 ohm impedance transformer plate to plate. So that means 10,000 ohm total for the primary.
:
:Norm
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::I'm working on a Philco 660 console chassis for which I have no speaker. For a test run following recapping,
::I used a 10W 1.2K resistor in place of the field coil and a junk box transformer and speaker. Works, but sounds terrible. I've been looking for a correct replacement output transformer and have hit my knowledge limit. The 660 uses two 42 output tubes in push-pull configuration. Consulting a tube manual shows me that the plate impedance of a 42 is 10000 ohms. Do I need a xformer that has that impedance on each side of the input center tap or 10000 ohms total? Radio Daze has a decent selection of new xformers but I don't want to get one that won't give the best sound. I will probably get a new 4 ohm speaker to use with this set.

10/14/2003 4:37:02 PMAnton
Besides getting the correct output transformer, also check all your bias voltages, and make sure that both your output valves are working. With push-pull output circuits, it is often preferable to have a matched set of valves. Check for emision before blaming anything else. An HT check of course is the starting point of your diagnosis.

Anton



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