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grunow model 580
5/2/2003 5:31:07 PMJim
My radio plays but has very little volume. Could someone tell me where to start checking voltages or looking to find the problem?
Thanks very much
5/2/2003 8:00:05 PMNorm Leal
Hi Jim

Here is the schematic for your radio:

http://ww3.nostalgiaair.org/schematics/GHU/_GHU_6-9.gif

Check voltages on pins #2 and #3 of the 42 tube. These should be over 200 volts DC.

Norm

:My radio plays but has very little volume. Could someone tell me where to start checking voltages or looking to find the problem?
:Thanks very much

5/2/2003 11:06:25 PMJim
:Hi Jim
:
: Here is the schematic for your radio:
:
:http://ww3.nostalgiaair.org/schematics/GHU/_GHU_6-9.gif
:
: Check voltages on pins #2 and #3 of the 42 tube. These should be over 200 volts DC.
:
:Norm
:
::My radio plays but has very little volume. Could someone tell me where to start checking voltages or looking to find the problem?
::Thanks very much

Hi Norm,
I checked the voltage to ea of the wires going to the speaker coil, which I believe are pins #2 and #3. #2 reads 155v to chassis and #3 reads 191 to chassis.
While the volume is low, the sound is real good, but as I turn the volume knob up, it starts to distort and the volume does come up a little. Is there another check I can make or is this telling me the power output tube is bad or very weak?
THANKS

5/2/2003 11:32:37 PMNorm Leal
Hi Jim

Your 42 tube may be drawing excessive current causing voltage to be lower. That is too much of a difference in voltage between pin #2 and #3.

By your readings here is what I think is causing the problem. Grid #1, pin #4, must be 15 to 20 volts negative in relation to cathode, pin #5. If it's zero or positive your 42 will draw excessive current and distort.

There will be a capacitor connected to pin #4. It may be leaky causing the grid to go positive. If you find grid #1 isn't negative replace this cap. Volume & voltage should increase and distortion will be gone.

Norm

::Hi Jim
::
:: Here is the schematic for your radio:
::
::http://ww3.nostalgiaair.org/schematics/GHU/_GHU_6-9.gif
::
:: Check voltages on pins #2 and #3 of the 42 tube. These should be over 200 volts DC.
::
::Norm
::
:::My radio plays but has very little volume. Could someone tell me where to start checking voltages or looking to find the problem?
:::Thanks very much
:
:Hi Norm,
:I checked the voltage to ea of the wires going to the speaker coil, which I believe are pins #2 and #3. #2 reads 155v to chassis and #3 reads 191 to chassis.
:While the volume is low, the sound is real good, but as I turn the volume knob up, it starts to distort and the volume does come up a little. Is there another check I can make or is this telling me the power output tube is bad or very weak?
:THANKS

5/4/2003 2:15:36 PMim
:Hi Jim
:
: Your 42 tube may be drawing excessive current causing voltage to be lower. That is too much of a difference in voltage between pin #2 and #3.
:
: By your readings here is what I think is causing the problem. Grid #1, pin #4, must be 15 to 20 volts negative in relation to cathode, pin #5. If it's zero or positive your 42 will draw excessive current and distort.
:
: There will be a capacitor connected to pin #4. It may be leaky causing the grid to go positive. If you find grid #1 isn't negative replace this cap. Volume & voltage should increase and distortion will be gone:
:
:Norm
:
:::Hi Jim
:::
::: Here is the schematic for your radio:
:::
:::http://ww3.nostalgiaair.org/schematics/GHU/_GHU_6-9.gif
:::
::: Check voltages on pins #2 and #3 of the 42 tube. These should be over 200 volts DC.
:::
:::Norm
:::
::::My radio plays but has very little volume. Could someone tell me where to start checking voltages or looking to find the problem?
::::Thanks very much
::
::Hi Norm,
::I checked the voltage to ea of the wires going to the speaker coil, which I believe are pins #2 and #3. #2 reads 155v to chassis and #3 reads 191 to chassis.
::While the volume is low, the sound is real good, but as I turn the volume knob up, it starts to distort and the volume does come up a little. Is there another check I can make or is this telling me the power output tube is bad or very weak?
::THANKS
:Hi Norm
You were exactly right! The voltages came up and the sound is great!!
THANKS again
Jim

5/4/2003 4:26:44 PMJim
::Hi Jim
::
:: Your 42 tube may be drawing excessive current causing voltage to be lower. That is too much of a difference in voltage between pin #2 and #3.
::
:: By your readings here is what I think is causing the problem. Grid #1, pin #4, must be 15 to 20 volts negative in relation to cathode, pin #5. If it's zero or positive your 42 will draw excessive current and distort.
::
:: There will be a capacitor connected to pin #4. It may be leaky causing the grid to go positive. If you find grid #1 isn't negative replace this cap. Volume & voltage should increase and distortion will be gone:
::
::Norm
::
::::Hi Jim
::::
:::: Here is the schematic for your radio:
::::
::::http://ww3.nostalgiaair.org/schematics/GHU/_GHU_6-9.gif
::::
:::: Check voltages on pins #2 and #3 of the 42 tube. These should be over 200 volts DC.
::::
::::Norm
::::
:::::My radio plays but has very little volume. Could someone tell me where to start checking voltages or looking to find the problem?
:::::Thanks very much
:::
:::Hi Norm,
:::I checked the voltage to ea of the wires going to the speaker coil, which I believe are pins #2 and #3. #2 reads 155v to chassis and #3 reads 191 to chassis.
:::While the volume is low, the sound is real good, but as I turn the volume knob up, it starts to distort and the volume does come up a little. Is there another check I can make or is this telling me the power output tube is bad or very weak?
:::THANKS
::Hi Norm
:You were exactly right! The voltages came up and the sound is great!!
:THANKS again
:Jim

Norm
I do have another question about the Grunow 580. On the schematic, it shows the Ant and Doublet connections for the incoming RF signal. Is the Ant the antenna conection for the C band and the Doublet the antenna connection for A and B bands?
THANKS
Jim
:

5/4/2003 10:43:13 PMNorm Leal
Hi Jim

Correct, by the schematic Ant is for band C and Doublet, A & B.

Norm

:::Hi Jim
:::
::: Your 42 tube may be drawing excessive current causing voltage to be lower. That is too much of a difference in voltage between pin #2 and #3.
:::
::: By your readings here is what I think is causing the problem. Grid #1, pin #4, must be 15 to 20 volts negative in relation to cathode, pin #5. If it's zero or positive your 42 will draw excessive current and distort.
:::
::: There will be a capacitor connected to pin #4. It may be leaky causing the grid to go positive. If you find grid #1 isn't negative replace this cap. Volume & voltage should increase and distortion will be gone:
:::
:::Norm
:::
:::::Hi Jim
:::::
::::: Here is the schematic for your radio:
:::::
:::::http://ww3.nostalgiaair.org/schematics/GHU/_GHU_6-9.gif
:::::
::::: Check voltages on pins #2 and #3 of the 42 tube. These should be over 200 volts DC.
:::::
:::::Norm
:::::
::::::My radio plays but has very little volume. Could someone tell me where to start checking voltages or looking to find the problem?
::::::Thanks very much
::::
::::Hi Norm,
::::I checked the voltage to ea of the wires going to the speaker coil, which I believe are pins #2 and #3. #2 reads 155v to chassis and #3 reads 191 to chassis.
::::While the volume is low, the sound is real good, but as I turn the volume knob up, it starts to distort and the volume does come up a little. Is there another check I can make or is this telling me the power output tube is bad or very weak?
::::THANKS
:::Hi Norm
::You were exactly right! The voltages came up and the sound is great!!
::THANKS again
::Jim
:
:Norm
:I do have another question about the Grunow 580. On the schematic, it shows the Ant and Doublet connections for the incoming RF signal. Is the Ant the antenna conection for the C band and the Doublet the antenna connection for A and B bands?
:THANKS
:Jim
::



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