One way to troubleshoot this is to take a wooden probe (I use a chopstick) and gently move parts/wires around in the vicinity of the first audio amp tube (12SJ7 in your set, I think) while the set is playing, to see if a difference is made.
For the record, not only should heater wires be kept away from the tube grid, they should be run as close to the metal chassis as possible, which will tend to confine the AC field to itself.
Clip/unsolder the leads going to the speaker terminals and temporarily clip in a different speaker to see if the "vibration" you mentioned disappears. This will tell you if the problem is mechanical or electronic.
I just did a repair on an H125 and the speaker voice coil was rubbing at all but the lowest volumes causing an annoying raspy vibration sound. Replacing the 4" speaker solved the problem in that case.
The H125 is a very small radio and is not particularly noted for it's fidelity... but the small speaker SHOULD produce nice clear sound.
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:Sounds like to me that your connection scenario betwixt the " new " speaker and its output transformer is open circuit . . . .with you possibly only hearing the "screaming" of the output tansformer laminations . . . but with its audio being, but a mere "whisper" to your ears.
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:For a simple seat of the pants test, merely connect a test lead and its clips to EITHER ONE of the three common connections of the top of the output transformer primary OR the top of the .01 tone capacitor shunting the output transformer primary OR the plate of the audio output tube . . . . whichever is the most convenient to your clip access.
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:Then . . . .and then ! . . . AND THEN ! ! ! . . . . you take the free clip of the test lead and brush it VERY quickly against the common NEGATIVE lead of any of your 3 electrolytics of the set (DC ground).
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:If still, just the "whisper" . . . . power down and ohm out your connections between the output transformer and the speaker voice coil, suspecting an open circuit.
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:Lastly, if the set has run at max volume without the speaker connected, the .01 ufd cap shunting across the audio output transformer primary may have dead shorted . . . or the situation may have been exacerbated by your replacing with too low of a peak voltage rating . . . IF you done such . . . . during a recap procedure.
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:: Resistance across across output transformer primaries is 340 ohms. Test quickly striking a lead on negative of electrolytic with other end connected at the plate of output tube results in loud burst of static at speaker. Replaced .01 mfd capacitor shunting output transformer. Ohms of output transformer secondary and ground is .8 ohms. I noticed that original speaker voice coil resistance on the schematic states 2.95 ohms. The replacement speaker is 8 ohms, can this be the problem.
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::Sounds like to me that your connection scenario betwixt the " new " speaker and its output transformer is open circuit . . . .with you possibly only hearing the "screaming" of the output tansformer laminations . . . but with its audio being, but a mere "whisper" to your ears.
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::That should result in a VERY loud burst of static coming from the speaker.
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and continuity on thru to the voice coil of the speaker and with the speaker working. ungrounded filament lead of the "Q7" . . . . . that is being above ground about by 12 V AC, and inject that derived sine test signal into the 1st grid of that "Q7" tube. |
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:I finally figured out what was wrong. Apparently when I was handling the radio while replacing the speaker, I pushed on a capacitor and one of its leads was making contact a lug of the AF 12SJ7 tube. Radio is working fine now. Thanks for the help troubleshooting learned a lot.
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