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aa5 cola radio is now working but only recv's one station
8/19/2013 5:09:56 AMmountain man
during the day I get the local (20 miles away) but at night the dial is good from 550 to 1200, volume not great, thinking agc problems
8/19/2013 8:48:32 AMCV
Low B+ voltage, weak RF/IF/demodulator tube, set needs complete alignment, inadequate antenna- worry about these before you suspect an AGC(AVC) problem. AVC would only be an issue if the demodulator is producing an excessively negative voltage to feed the AVC bus- which isn't very likely in the absence of a strong signal.
8/19/2013 8:56:13 AMBrianC
Did it work OK before..or, is this a 'new' radio in the collection? Just asking because (aside from it having a component problem) some radios back in the day were just never made/designed well from the get-go, and lacked in sensitivity.
8/19/2013 11:23:04 AMCV
I'm not sure what a "cola" radio is but I can only guess that it is a radio made to resemble a Coke or Pepsi bottle. The only other thing that comes to mind is "cost of living adjustment" which probably doesn't apply here...

Some decorative/novelty radios were pretty crappy performers since people bought them as- well, novelties- rather than on their merits as a radio. But if it's an AA5 it probably had at least the potential of being a decent performer. Of course, poor original assembly/sloppy adjustment and no maintenance over several decades can subvert the inherent soundness of any electronic design.

8/19/2013 12:46:03 PMmountain man
:I'm not sure what a "cola" radio is but I can only guess that it is a radio made to resemble a Coke or Pepsi bottle. The only other thing that comes to mind is "cost of living adjustment" which probably doesn't apply here...
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:Some decorative/novelty radios were pretty crappy performers since people bought them as- well, novelties- rather than on their merits as a radio. But if it's an AA5 it probably had at least the potential of being a decent performer. Of course, poor original assembly/sloppy adjustment and no maintenance over several decades can subvert the inherent soundness of any electronic design.
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8/19/2013 12:48:28 PMmountain man
think i discovered problem oscilalater coil is open on one side. this was a majestic radio produce by crosley model 5a140 sorry for not giving more in
8/21/2013 3:12:00 PM*** Edd***









Sir Mo Ma . . .


With your final submission of the model number of your unit, there is now no ambiguity of it being confused as being one of the smaller "Coke bottle " units, with your unit being a "cooler" unit, as is being shown at the very-very end of this post.

Plus your units case is large enough to be incorporating full blown " All American Five " superhet circuitry within its case.


Plus it has a full loop antenna installed within its back cover . . . .it interwinds about 2 inches of the the loop winding within two separate gaps in the masonite back . . .those two areas being plainly visible.


ADDITIONALLY there is a Fahnestock clip nearby which will accept an additional long wire aerial connection, however, the loop antenna itself should provide a myriad of stations being received.


Pending . . . . . that you are not sited at Amboy crater out in the Mojave desert.


Now . . . .investigating your suspicion of a defective osillator coil.


Initially confirm this fact . . . . via schematic referencing . . . that the osc coil is consisting of four connections.


the main windinf that is resdonating in conjunctio wit the osc tuning condenser section, with there being a tap off on this coils lower portion.


Now the main point of interest would be the fourth "comnnection" of the osc coil terminals, with the schematic showing it as being an open swirl of loops, but being open of electrical connection at its very end .


And that is exactly how it is physically, composed of a number of turns of wire interwound with the actual oscillator coil windings.


Sooooo . . . this connection, in actuality is serving as a "gimmick" capacitance with its low capacitance intercoupling, replacing the usual ~47pf silver mica coupler that couples back into the osc tubes circuitry.


The 3 connections should ohm out inter-continuity, while the gimmick winding would show an open circuit connection.


Tests to really-really detect for an oscillator presence:


Use a battery powered digital meter and stab its + test lead into the cathode connection of the osc tube and its - lead going to the 1st grid of the osc tube. A properly functioning oscillator will then give you a negative voltage reading of several volts usually minus 4 ------minus six. That varying with set circuit design, along with the extreme end of the band that you are being tuned to.

An other testing procedure is to put another set belly to belly / back to back with your set and depend upon the new test set as being your aural monitor for oscillator activity of your "Coke" set.


Since your "Coke" set will be capable of receiving AM band signals from ~550-1700 Khz its local oscillator will then be operating from ~ 1005-2155 Khz in receiving that spectrum.


Therefore if the monitoring receiver is then tuned into a "quiet" spot above ~ 1005 Khz it can "listen" in as the "Coke" set is slowly tuned across the band.


HOWEVER, that signal presence is NOT going to show up as a rumbling freight train, in actuality, showing up as a very subtle hum , which is easily overlooked by a novices initial trial of this procedure.


A very MARKEDLY better procedure is to tune the monitor receiver to pick up a weak station within that given spectral range and then further off tune the reception to one side of the station, until the sets audio is then still feebly distinguishable.


If the "Coke" set is then tuned across the band, instead of the freight train rumble, you then will receive its whistle as a heterodyne "birdie" which is initially being at a high frequency, that gradually decreases in frequency to Zero and then again rising as you tune past.


( A complete aural comparison is akin to the sound effect used in movies of a bomb being dropped to ground . . . and then . . . AND THEN . . . . the bomb reversing and making a return path BACK up to the bomb bay door.)


This lets you know that there is an oscillator presence on your "Coke" set.


Thassssit . . . . .




73's de Edd



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:think i discovered problem oscilalater coil is open on one side. this was a majestic radio produce by crosley model 5a140 sorry for not giving more in
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