I have emailed and Msged all over trying to find what model this radio is.. its a GE With a Gerrard Record player inside.. The speakers are mounted in two front panels that open from the center and sit on the left and right sides (the swing out). It has I believe three tubes in the back.. it sits on 4 metal legs that come down at an angle from the corners. It has a tape plug on it through old RCA jacks.. I have lots of good pictures if you might have an Idea please help!!

:I have emailed and Msged all over trying to find what model this radio is.. its a GE With a Gerrard Record player inside.. The speakers are mounted in two front panels that open from the center and sit on the left and right sides (the swing out). It has I believe three tubes in the back.. it sits on 4 metal legs that come down at an angle from the corners. It has a tape plug on it through old RCA jacks.. I have lots of good pictures if you might have an Idea please help!!

P.S. You can email me at Draggin@Charter.net thanks!!

If the unit has a radio, it must have more than 3 tubes. My grandmother had a unit that was a portable (without legs). The phonograph folded out from the front and the speakers folded out from the sides. It had 3 tubes. They were 35C5, 35C5, and 35W4, or perhaps some other combination. The above would require a ballast resistor, of course. The unit was stereophonic, but was very basic. With the absence of preamplifier tubes, it is obvious that the unit used one of those 3 volt cartridges.

Anyway, technical nonsense aside, if your unit has only 3 tubes, then it most likely does not have a radio. Having a radio would require at least two more tubes. Being a stereo, I would only hope that a radio, if present, would be equipped with FM, though depending upon the date, FM stereo might not have been available yet. If the unit has FM, then it'd definitely have more than 3 tubes, and more than the 2 extra I mentioned as a minimum for having a radio.

Thomas

Thanks for the start.. it has AM and FM radio .. no push buttons, all turn knobs.. it has the screws in the back for the AM and FM antenna, and it might have more than three tubes, I didnt raelly know what I was looking at.. I will take a look first thing in the morning and repost.. I have lots of pictures if that would help..

THANKS !!!

:If the unit has a radio, it must have more than 3 tubes. My grandmother had a unit that was a portable (without legs). The phonograph folded out from the front and the speakers folded out from the sides. It had 3 tubes. They were 35C5, 35C5, and 35W4, or perhaps some other combination. The above would require a ballast resistor, of course. The unit was stereophonic, but was very basic. With the absence of preamplifier tubes, it is obvious that the unit used one of those 3 volt cartridges.
:
:Anyway, technical nonsense aside, if your unit has only 3 tubes, then it most likely does not have a radio. Having a radio would require at least two more tubes. Being a stereo, I would only hope that a radio, if present, would be equipped with FM, though depending upon the date, FM stereo might not have been available yet. If the unit has FM, then it'd definitely have more than 3 tubes, and more than the 2 extra I mentioned as a minimum for having a radio.
:
:Thomas

Your descripton tends to make that unit of 50'ish-60'ish vintage. Check inside, as you might find the GE model number duplicated in there on the inner cabinetry. Sometimes on an inside seam or flange on the satellite speaker housings. Also check the chassis
thouroughly for numbers stamped on it, as they were never lax about properly ID'ing their products with their chassis numbers for the service fraternity.

73's de Edd

Ok, I looked all over the radio and the chasis and the phonoplayer.. its a hi-fi stereophonic.. the only numbers I can find is either a 9w21 or an 8w21.. there are 11 tubes (my last inspection was not up to par SOOOO SORRRYY!!! lol..) there are four on the empty side (behind some of the radio knobs..) numbers are 5y3,7189, 7189, 12ax7.. then there are 7 more behind the phono.. numberes from left to right top then left to right bottom.. 6au6, 6b16, 6au6, 6ew6, 6gh8, 6be6, 6ez8.. lets see if that will help..

THANKS!!

:Your descripton tends to make that unit of 50'ish-60'ish vintage. Check inside, as you might find the GE model number duplicated in there on the inner cabinetry. Sometimes on an inside seam or flange on the satellite speaker housings. Also check the chassis
:thouroughly for numbers stamped on it, as they were never lax about properly ID'ing their products with their chassis numbers for the service fraternity.
:
:73's de Edd

Weeelllll, that number that you gave didn’t jive with any combinational numbers of Gentle Electrics. Also, BTW, ‘ole Gerrard, le record player extraordinaire, done ‘tole me to tell you that his REAL name is Garrard.
But getting to think about it, you didn’t differentiate as to your reason for wanting / having to know its model. So, specifically do you currently have a need to know because you are having problems with the unit and need to service the unit . OR is it that you are merely curious about the vintage of its manufacture ? To solely ascertain the latter may be possible by doing a further check on all of its tubes and inspect their stamped side symbolizations. The first thing to expect to find common between the original tubes supplied in the set is the magic numbers of 188 or sometimes 188-5 that zeroes in on its being a GE…… RETMA EIA assigned company identifier code number for GE. Then after seeing the other tube numbers that you supplied with the 6GH8 and the audio output 7189 tubes we need to upgrade the units potential aging on up from the ‘50’s into the ‘60’s up to ‘70’ish by both the utilization of a built in 8 track within the unit as well as the last 2 tubes market intro dates.
The next adjunct numbers to the 188’s to look for would be the code dates of the manufacture date of the original tubes. If we were to see 66-12 on a tube, that would be indicative of the 12th week of 1966. Or on some tubes they were shortened to a mere 6-12, which meant that you really had to know your equipments vintage to with in ten years initially. So all in all if you find a string of very similar code dates you typically can expect that unit to have been manufactured for sale quite shortly after those stamped code dates on the sets tubes. At least that now will give us a time frame to research schematic data for coinciding tube lineups..
73’s de Edd

HAHAHA That is really bad, sorry .. I cant believe I never noticed.. the sad thing is I Knew the proper spelling I just didnt type it right (sorry Garrard..!).. well I went and found the magic numbers.. 62-48 and 188-5 is on the tubes.. now Im not sure how that helps me .. does that mean its a 62? and what would the 48 sybolize? As for needing to know what type it is.. well me and my wife garage sale alot, and I like to look for older radios and kitchen stuffs, and she likes the old ladies trinkets.. I found this one at a place here in Weatherford Texas (where I live) and picked it up. it works great, for the most part.. though the record player needs a little boost every now and then, and I just been trying to figure out what year it is.. lol.. Thanks Edd!!

:Weeelllll, that number that you gave didn’t jive with any combinational numbers of Gentle Electrics. Also, BTW, ‘ole Gerrard, le record player extraordinaire, done ‘tole me to tell you that his REAL name is Garrard.
:But getting to think about it, you didn’t differentiate as to your reason for wanting / having to know its model. So, specifically do you currently have a need to know because you are having problems with the unit and need to service the unit . OR is it that you are merely curious about the vintage of its manufacture ? To solely ascertain the latter may be possible by doing a further check on all of its tubes and inspect their stamped side symbolizations. The first thing to expect to find common between the original tubes supplied in the set is the magic numbers of 188 or sometimes 188-5 that zeroes in on its being a GE…… RETMA EIA assigned company identifier code number for GE. Then after seeing the other tube numbers that you supplied with the 6GH8 and the audio output 7189 tubes we need to upgrade the units potential aging on up from the ‘50’s into the ‘60’s up to ‘70’ish by both the utilization of a built in 8 track within the unit as well as the last 2 tubes market intro dates.
:The next adjunct numbers to the 188’s to look for would be the code dates of the manufacture date of the original tubes. If we were to see 66-12 on a tube, that would be indicative of the 12th week of 1966. Or on some tubes they were shortened to a mere 6-12, which meant that you really had to know your equipments vintage to with in ten years initially. So all in all if you find a string of very similar code dates you typically can expect that unit to have been manufactured for sale quite shortly after those stamped code dates on the sets tubes. At least that now will give us a time frame to research schematic data for coinciding tube lineups..
:73’s de Edd
:

Hi

Week 48 of 1962, beginning of December.

Norm

:HAHAHA That is really bad, sorry .. I cant believe I never noticed.. the sad thing is I Knew the proper spelling I just didnt type it right (sorry Garrard..!).. well I went and found the magic numbers.. 62-48 and 188-5 is on the tubes.. now Im not sure how that helps me .. does that mean its a 62? and what would the 48 sybolize? As for needing to know what type it is.. well me and my wife garage sale alot, and I like to look for older radios and kitchen stuffs, and she likes the old ladies trinkets.. I found this one at a place here in Weatherford Texas (where I live) and picked it up. it works great, for the most part.. though the record player needs a little boost every now and then, and I just been trying to figure out what year it is.. lol.. Thanks Edd!!
:
:
::Weeelllll, that number that you gave didn’t jive with any combinational numbers of Gentle Electrics. Also, BTW, ‘ole Gerrard, le record player extraordinaire, done ‘tole me to tell you that his REAL name is Garrard.
::But getting to think about it, you didn’t differentiate as to your reason for wanting / having to know its model. So, specifically do you currently have a need to know because you are having problems with the unit and need to service the unit . OR is it that you are merely curious about the vintage of its manufacture ? To solely ascertain the latter may be possible by doing a further check on all of its tubes and inspect their stamped side symbolizations. The first thing to expect to find common between the original tubes supplied in the set is the magic numbers of 188 or sometimes 188-5 that zeroes in on its being a GE…… RETMA EIA assigned company identifier code number for GE. Then after seeing the other tube numbers that you supplied with the 6GH8 and the audio output 7189 tubes we need to upgrade the units potential aging on up from the ‘50’s into the ‘60’s up to ‘70’ish by both the utilization of a built in 8 track within the unit as well as the last 2 tubes market intro dates.
::The next adjunct numbers to the 188’s to look for would be the code dates of the manufacture date of the original tubes. If we were to see 66-12 on a tube, that would be indicative of the 12th week of 1966. Or on some tubes they were shortened to a mere 6-12, which meant that you really had to know your equipments vintage to with in ten years initially. So all in all if you find a string of very similar code dates you typically can expect that unit to have been manufactured for sale quite shortly after those stamped code dates on the sets tubes. At least that now will give us a time frame to research schematic data for coinciding tube lineups..
::73’s de Edd
::

First off you guys are great I really do appreciate the help.. ok so week 48 of 62.. now how do I locate a model number on this radio.. is there any other types of marks or numbers I might need to identify in order to get the model number and so forth?

Terrance

:Hi
:
: Week 48 of 1962, beginning of December.
:
:Norm
:
::HAHAHA That is really bad, sorry .. I cant believe I never noticed.. the sad thing is I Knew the proper spelling I just didnt type it right (sorry Garrard..!).. well I went and found the magic numbers.. 62-48 and 188-5 is on the tubes.. now Im not sure how that helps me .. does that mean its a 62? and what would the 48 sybolize? As for needing to know what type it is.. well me and my wife garage sale alot, and I like to look for older radios and kitchen stuffs, and she likes the old ladies trinkets.. I found this one at a place here in Weatherford Texas (where I live) and picked it up. it works great, for the most part.. though the record player needs a little boost every now and then, and I just been trying to figure out what year it is.. lol.. Thanks Edd!!
::
::
:::Weeelllll, that number that you gave didn’t jive with any combinational numbers of Gentle Electrics. Also, BTW, ‘ole Gerrard, le record player extraordinaire, done ‘tole me to tell you that his REAL name is Garrard.
:::But getting to think about it, you didn’t differentiate as to your reason for wanting / having to know its model. So, specifically do you currently have a need to know because you are having problems with the unit and need to service the unit . OR is it that you are merely curious about the vintage of its manufacture ? To solely ascertain the latter may be possible by doing a further check on all of its tubes and inspect their stamped side symbolizations. The first thing to expect to find common between the original tubes supplied in the set is the magic numbers of 188 or sometimes 188-5 that zeroes in on its being a GE…… RETMA EIA assigned company identifier code number for GE. Then after seeing the other tube numbers that you supplied with the 6GH8 and the audio output 7189 tubes we need to upgrade the units potential aging on up from the ‘50’s into the ‘60’s up to ‘70’ish by both the utilization of a built in 8 track within the unit as well as the last 2 tubes market intro dates.
:::The next adjunct numbers to the 188’s to look for would be the code dates of the manufacture date of the original tubes. If we were to see 66-12 on a tube, that would be indicative of the 12th week of 1966. Or on some tubes they were shortened to a mere 6-12, which meant that you really had to know your equipments vintage to with in ten years initially. So all in all if you find a string of very similar code dates you typically can expect that unit to have been manufactured for sale quite shortly after those stamped code dates on the sets tubes. At least that now will give us a time frame to research schematic data for coinciding tube lineups..
:::73’s de Edd
:::

Perhaps you have a RC4670 series...or. I had one and it came with a small coffee table! Also included a bracket to hang the radio on the wall, complete with template for 16" or 24" studs. The amplifier has 5Y3, two 7189 and a 12AX7. The tuner has 6AU6 (2)6BA6, 6EW6, 6EZ8, 6BE6, AND A 6GH8. Other models it might be are RC4671, RC4672, RC4679. I have not throughly read all the post on this and someone may have stated the model. Sorry if so, I'm in a hurry to get something to eat.

Bill VA

:First off you guys are great I really do appreciate the help.. ok so week 48 of 62.. now how do I locate a model number on this radio.. is there any other types of marks or numbers I might need to identify in order to get the model number and so forth?
:
:Terrance
:
::Hi
:::: Week 48 of 1962, beginning of December.
::
::Norm
::
:::HAHAHA That is really bad, sorry .. I cant believe I never noticed.. the sad thing is I Knew the proper spelling I just didnt type it right (sorry Garrard..!).. well I went and found the magic numbers.. 62-48 and 188-5 is on the tubes.. now Im not sure how that helps me .. does that mean its a 62? and what would the 48 sybolize? As for needing to know what type it is.. well me and my wife garage sale alot, and I like to look for older radios and kitchen stuffs, and she likes the old ladies trinkets.. I found this one at a place here in Weatherford Texas (where I live) and picked it up. it works great, for the most part.. though the record player needs a little boost every now and then, and I just been trying to figure out what year it is.. lol.. Thanks Edd!!
:::
:::
::::Weeelllll, that number that you gave didn’t jive with any combinational numbers of Gentle Electrics. Also, BTW, ‘ole Gerrard, le record player extraordinaire, done ‘tole me to tell you that his REAL name is Garrard.
::::But getting to think about it, you didn’t differentiate as to your reason for wanting / having to know its model. So, specifically do you currently have a need to know because you are having problems with the unit and need to service the unit . OR is it that you are merely curious about the vintage of its manufacture ? To solely ascertain the latter may be possible by doing a further check on all of its tubes and inspect their stamped side symbolizations. The first thing to expect to find common between the original tubes supplied in the set is the magic numbers of 188 or sometimes 188-5 that zeroes in on its being a GE…… RETMA EIA assigned company identifier code number for GE. Then after seeing the other tube numbers that you supplied with the 6GH8 and the audio output 7189 tubes we need to upgrade the units potential aging on up from the ‘50’s into the ‘60’s up to ‘70’ish by both the utilization of a built in 8 track within the unit as well as the last 2 tubes market intro dates.
::::The next adjunct numbers to the 188’s to look for would be the code dates of the manufacture date of the original tubes. If we were to see 66-12 on a tube, that would be indicative of the 12th week of 1966. Or on some tubes they were shortened to a mere 6-12, which meant that you really had to know your equipments vintage to with in ten years initially. So all in all if you find a string of very similar code dates you typically can expect that unit to have been manufactured for sale quite shortly after those stamped code dates on the sets tubes. At least that now will give us a time frame to research schematic data for coinciding tube lineups..
::::73’s de Edd
::::

Take a look at this:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/912127/RADIOGE.jpg

Bill VA

:
:Perhaps you have a RC4670 series...or. I had one and it came with a small coffee table! Also included a bracket to hang the radio on the wall, complete with template for 16" or 24" studs. The amplifier has 5Y3, two 7189 and a 12AX7. The tuner has 6AU6 (2)6BA6, 6EW6, 6EZ8, 6BE6, AND A 6GH8. Other models it might be are RC4671, RC4672, RC4679. I have not throughly read all the post on this and someone may have stated the model. Sorry if so, I'm in a hurry to get something to eat.
:
:Bill VA
:
:
::First off you guys are great I really do appreciate the help.. ok so week 48 of 62.. now how do I locate a model number on this radio.. is there any other types of marks or numbers I might need to identify in order to get the model number and so forth?
::
::Terrance
::
:::Hi
::::: Week 48 of 1962, beginning of December.
:::
:::Norm
:::
::::HAHAHA That is really bad, sorry .. I cant believe I never noticed.. the sad thing is I Knew the proper spelling I just didnt type it right (sorry Garrard..!).. well I went and found the magic numbers.. 62-48 and 188-5 is on the tubes.. now Im not sure how that helps me .. does that mean its a 62? and what would the 48 sybolize? As for needing to know what type it is.. well me and my wife garage sale alot, and I like to look for older radios and kitchen stuffs, and she likes the old ladies trinkets.. I found this one at a place here in Weatherford Texas (where I live) and picked it up. it works great, for the most part.. though the record player needs a little boost every now and then, and I just been trying to figure out what year it is.. lol.. Thanks Edd!!
::::
::::
:::::Weeelllll, that number that you gave didn’t jive with any combinational numbers of Gentle Electrics. Also, BTW, ‘ole Gerrard, le record player extraordinaire, done ‘tole me to tell you that his REAL name is Garrard.
:::::But getting to think about it, you didn’t differentiate as to your reason for wanting / having to know its model. So, specifically do you currently have a need to know because you are having problems with the unit and need to service the unit . OR is it that you are merely curious about the vintage of its manufacture ? To solely ascertain the latter may be possible by doing a further check on all of its tubes and inspect their stamped side symbolizations. The first thing to expect to find common between the original tubes supplied in the set is the magic numbers of 188 or sometimes 188-5 that zeroes in on its being a GE…… RETMA EIA assigned company identifier code number for GE. Then after seeing the other tube numbers that you supplied with the 6GH8 and the audio output 7189 tubes we need to upgrade the units potential aging on up from the ‘50’s into the ‘60’s up to ‘70’ish by both the utilization of a built in 8 track within the unit as well as the last 2 tubes market intro dates.
:::::The next adjunct numbers to the 188’s to look for would be the code dates of the manufacture date of the original tubes. If we were to see 66-12 on a tube, that would be indicative of the 12th week of 1966. Or on some tubes they were shortened to a mere 6-12, which meant that you really had to know your equipments vintage to with in ten years initially. So all in all if you find a string of very similar code dates you typically can expect that unit to have been manufactured for sale quite shortly after those stamped code dates on the sets tubes. At least that now will give us a time frame to research schematic data for coinciding tube lineups..
:::::73’s de Edd
:::::

Thanks Bill, Edd, Norm and Thomas, Thats the model I have you guys have been awesome I truly appreciate your help!!

:Take a look at this:
:
:http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/912127/RADIOGE.jpg
:
:Bill VA
:
:
::
::Perhaps you have a RC4670 series...or. I had one and it came with a small coffee table! Also included a bracket to hang the radio on the wall, complete with template for 16" or 24" studs. The amplifier has 5Y3, two 7189 and a 12AX7. The tuner has 6AU6 (2)6BA6, 6EW6, 6EZ8, 6BE6, AND A 6GH8. Other models it might be are RC4671, RC4672, RC4679. I have not throughly read all the post on this and someone may have stated the model. Sorry if so, I'm in a hurry to get something to eat.
::
::Bill VA
::
::
:::First off you guys are great I really do appreciate the help.. ok so week 48 of 62.. now how do I locate a model number on this radio.. is there any other types of marks or numbers I might need to identify in order to get the model number and so forth?
:::
:::Terrance
:::
::::Hi
:::::: Week 48 of 1962, beginning of December.
::::
::::Norm
::::
:::::HAHAHA That is really bad, sorry .. I cant believe I never noticed.. the sad thing is I Knew the proper spelling I just didnt type it right (sorry Garrard..!).. well I went and found the magic numbers.. 62-48 and 188-5 is on the tubes.. now Im not sure how that helps me .. does that mean its a 62? and what would the 48 sybolize? As for needing to know what type it is.. well me and my wife garage sale alot, and I like to look for older radios and kitchen stuffs, and she likes the old ladies trinkets.. I found this one at a place here in Weatherford Texas (where I live) and picked it up. it works great, for the most part.. though the record player needs a little boost every now and then, and I just been trying to figure out what year it is.. lol.. Thanks Edd!!
:::::
:::::
::::::Weeelllll, that number that you gave didn’t jive with any combinational numbers of Gentle Electrics. Also, BTW, ‘ole Gerrard, le record player extraordinaire, done ‘tole me to tell you that his REAL name is Garrard.
::::::But getting to think about it, you didn’t differentiate as to your reason for wanting / having to know its model. So, specifically do you currently have a need to know because you are having problems with the unit and need to service the unit . OR is it that you are merely curious about the vintage of its manufacture ? To solely ascertain the latter may be possible by doing a further check on all of its tubes and inspect their stamped side symbolizations. The first thing to expect to find common between the original tubes supplied in the set is the magic numbers of 188 or sometimes 188-5 that zeroes in on its being a GE…… RETMA EIA assigned company identifier code number for GE. Then after seeing the other tube numbers that you supplied with the 6GH8 and the audio output 7189 tubes we need to upgrade the units potential aging on up from the ‘50’s into the ‘60’s up to ‘70’ish by both the utilization of a built in 8 track within the unit as well as the last 2 tubes market intro dates.
::::::The next adjunct numbers to the 188’s to look for would be the code dates of the manufacture date of the original tubes. If we were to see 66-12 on a tube, that would be indicative of the 12th week of 1966. Or on some tubes they were shortened to a mere 6-12, which meant that you really had to know your equipments vintage to with in ten years initially. So all in all if you find a string of very similar code dates you typically can expect that unit to have been manufactured for sale quite shortly after those stamped code dates on the sets tubes. At least that now will give us a time frame to research schematic data for coinciding tube lineups..
::::::73’s de Edd
::::::

Well how 'boot that, looks like you have zeroed in on the set. I did not realize that GE and RCA were sleeping in the same bed way back in those days, which they started doing in the eighties on their televisions and other products.
You still did not mention if you were having problems with the unit to require the need for having svc data? On the mentioned record player bit, there is a build up of a glaze of dead rubber oxide on the intermediate idler wheel that couples to the turntable. Seems like you remove the center clip encircling the bottom of the record changers center post to permit the platter to then be lifted up and off, thus exposing the drive mechanism, then home in on the idler using this procedure if the rubber is not too far gone

http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Forums/Messages/437/M0038437.htm

Thats one old idler ,It might revive however, since the T/T is trying with just a start up boost currently. Also check that the motor shaft spins freely and is not gummed up with old lube residue.
The other most common problems with that unit was the development of noisy controls and a need for their cleaning , possibly along with an occassional resistive corrosion on the speaker hinges that the audio signal was passed through, unless your unit used separate wires with RCA plugs. As cramped as that unit is also, on the tube heat aspect, if it was my unit, I would place a small computer whisper fan inside the top rear cabinet to carry off tube heat if the set gets used for daily periods of time using the radio portion.

With the info to date looks like the unit is an ~ 63 model and if you will drift east towards....... Fort Werth.... I love yew....... and check out their main library for Howard Sams Photofacts number 750 folder 7, you should find most of the service data and schematic on your set. If not, mosey on a bit further east to Big D, where I know that they have it on the 5th floor.
(They possibly might even trade copies for W- peaches)