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radio cabinet refinishing

Posted by jim campbell on 07/05/2005 22:28

:You are not supposed to stain most wooden radios. Use colored varnish. If there are mixed woods, the fine woods will take the stain well, but certain hard or soft woods and plywood ends will take the stain very poorly. Pine and walnut will turn zebra, hard woods will not accept stain at all. The edges where the underwood (which is usually either really hard or really soft and sometimes is in layers if plywood) is showing should be covered with a dark colored varnish as was originally used. I'm not sure about how the Majestic you talk about looks, but my Majestic 180 has really dark colored varnish around the edges, as do my other consols, though in different shades. If you were to stain these edges, the radios would look rediculous. The trim around the base of the Philco 60, for instance, should be done in a dark colored varnish. The decorative border between the top and the sides of the Crosley Super 11 is a dark maroonish colored varnish. I found that it was a cross between walnut and jet mahogany. If this surface is stained, it will not accept stain at all. It will look light and plain looking. Colored varnish is used to hide ends of plywood and to blend different types of wood that would not blend with stain. Another advantage of colored varnish is that joints can be filled with wood putty, and the colored varnish will disguise them. You can purchase colored varnishes and polys at hardware stores and wood working stores. You can also make your own shades by mixing oil based paste stains with varnish. The paste stains will greatly slow down hardening of the varnish, so be aware of this. The varnish will lose its tackiness in the normal amount of time, but may dent with the pressure of a finger nail, etc. Once the colored varnish sections have hardened properly (a month, perhaps), they should be gone over with a clear coat of varnish. If you use precolored varnish, however, it should dry in the normal amount of time.
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:Anyway, don't stain radios unless the wood takes the stain well. Remember that radios were originally made on assembly lines whether at the radio factory or at a cabinet factory. They used quick and cheap methods of assembly, and then used colored varnish to blend everything together and also to get striking designs not otherwise possible with the woods used. I see radios on eBay with stained walnut, which zebra stripes, and the borders of the radio are stained the same color as the rest of the radio instead of in a deep contrasting shade. The radios look boring and rediculous. Also, originally most radios were done in either a semi-gloss or a full gloss. Unless it is for your personal taste, don't refinish a radio in a flat finish. I have seen some radios which look good this way, but if you're going for original, they should be glossy.
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:Thomas

Thanks for the tips and the history. I will go with varnish and stained varnish. I have to say though that I have had some very good results with stain and shellac on cabinets that I completely stripped. I have no idea what the original finish looked like on the Majestic 70B and 90. They were in very poor condition. It took several days to repair the veneer and stabilize the cabinets in order to work on them at all. Now the Majestic highboy model 92 does have the highlighted edges you mention and I won't strip it off. I also agree with your warning on bland one tone refinishing jobs. I did that to my Philco Jr. and regretted it later. Although it may not be too late to use a darker finish in the inner front panel as was originally. I will look for the oil based stain you mention also. Although I have not used polyurethane in recent years I am opposed to it. I like the look of shellac and varnish. I have tried to repair dents and scratches on floors done in polyurethane with poor results. Polyurethane is a longer chain molecule than varnish. I think I will stick with the varnish.



radio cabinet refinishing 
jim campbell 07/05/2005 13:27 
Mark 07/05/2005 15:41 
Thomas Dermody 07/05/2005 17:04 
jim campbell 07/05/2005 22:28 
Thomas Dermody 07/06/2005 15:47 
Bob Prochko 07/16/2005 20:16 
jim campbell 07/17/2005 21:13 
Thomas Dermody 07/18/2005 02:19 
Bob Prochko 07/21/2005 10:24 
Thomas Dermody 07/29/2005 20:07 
bob2 09/25/2005 16:12 
Billy Richardson 09/27/2005 10:45 
jim campelll 07/05/2005 22:31 
butch s. 07/07/2005 02:48 
Marv Nuce 07/07/2005 18:44 
Thomas Dermody 07/12/2005 15:45 
Jeff 08/29/2005 18:36 
Thomas Dermody 08/29/2005 18:45 
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Billy Richardson 08/31/2005 19:54 
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Thomas Dermody 09/01/2005 18:41 
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